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gutterfax wrote:

If the fold....they will be reborn and picked up for a quid....re-negotiate rental agreements on Oddslum, convince all the players they want to stay....and it will be "as you were" by February 2013.....

......nothing to see here, move along.

The only benefit I can see to the Welsh (x2), Wakey and now Bradford going tits up is that nobody accuses London of receiving financial help any more

Ahem, I don't recall Wakefield getting any financial assistance from the RFL or this supposed Rugby League family. Indeed just prior to going tits up Wakefield asked the RFL for a £300k sub and were turned down.

There was never any of this angst and handwringing from across the RL world when we were in the brown stuff, nor your goodselves in London for that matter.

maurice wrote:

This would be simple with p&r. Bulls to C1 at seasons end winner of Championship replaces them for 2013. As it is a points deduction means nothing and the belief of a corrupt RFL franchise process is enhanced.
Refn this topic - the clubs in danger of losing a franchise would vote against, the clubs who gain by having a strong Bradford vote for - ie self interest rules.

Would it be simpler?

Who is relegated from C1 to make way for the Bulls? Or do we have to expand that league? is that League expanded for good or just temporarily? What about the team which finishes bottom of SL? are they given a reprieve or are they relegated too? Is someone going to be promoted to C1? or does P+R not matter there?

Do we promote two sides to the Championship from C1 instead of one to fit the Bulls in to C1? If we relegate the bottom SL side aswell we would then have a Championship which was a team bigger.

So under P+R, we are left with a whole heap of questions, all three leagues being affected and the possibility of forcing ourselves in to the idiotic position of possible taking an SL team, sticking it in a league it is too big for, just so we can take the best team away from the championship and replace them with one or two from a lower league.

Sounds like an absolutely perfect format for RL if you are the RFU

[Dave Lister]

LyndsayGill wrote:

Ahem, I don't recall Wakefield getting any financial assistance from the RFL or this supposed Rugby League family. Indeed just prior to going tits up Wakefield asked the RFL for a £300k sub and were turned down.

There was never any of this angst and handwringing from across the RL world when we were in the brown stuff, nor your goodselves in London for that matter.

Indeed. However, the RFL have been slipping us cash for years to keep us afloat, don't forget that.

Any vote would be difficult. Clubs down the bottom end - like Cas/Wakey/Salford, would have to weigh up a balance of an home game against the Bulls. If it was Fev getting promoted I suspect that Cas would vote against the Bulls staying up. Especially given that in effect it would mean one less team nearer the play-offs for us.

For those at the top, it would be less difficult but I suspect it would come down to a moral choice over being sentimental.

I would be very disappointed if my club voted any club out (exept hfc of course!)

JB Down Under wrote:

I would be very disappointed if my club voted any club out (exept hfc of course!)

Why? If they go into liquidation why should they be able to reform at the top? You wouldn't see it in any other sport. It would be morally wrong and against the spirit of the game.

JB Down Under wrote:

I would be very disappointed if my club voted any club out (exept hfc of course!)

Well that's not going to happen, so get back under your rock.

I'm sure you said that right up to Lloyd selling you up the river HR! But in all seriousness I hope not, seeing the smugness wiped off HFC fans faces on derby day is far more valuable than the demise of your club!

Fully I believe Bradford have a lot to offer SL. A well run club has the potential for 10k+ crowds and competitive teams. Outside of SL I can;t see anybody who offers as much. If we are going to keep same number of SL teams then a succesful Bradford is worth more to the comp than anyone currently outside SL imo.

SL is now a business, fans have got to accept that. The days of the top tier being about what happens on the field are long gone. Its capitalism at its finest, like it or not.