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Some bizarre stuff on here about Lockers. Whether or not he'd make the best captain is a matter for debate but as far as LFs go he is easily the best in Britain at the moment and is therefore as guaranteed as anyone to get a starting spot.
Would he be as good in the second row as Hock or Ellis, probably not. But he is a LF, not a second rower! If we had two second rowers better than Hock at Wigan (or for England) I still wouldn't want him playing 13 ahead of Lockers.
Badwanger wrote:
IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.
nickmanator wrote:
billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind
robbierotten wrote:
Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.
Deano G wrote:
Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?
If Sinfield is playing he should be captain - he's clearly the best captain in Super League - the best candidates if he's not playing are all playing down under which brings its own problems. I've never particularly rated O'Loughlin, I don't think Tomkins is captaincy material and I'd rather leave Roby to do what he does best without thinking about anything else, so long term you'd have to say Graham and possibly Burgess are the stand out candidates.
Personally i would have Roby as captain with ellis and o'loughlin as vice! However I think Sinfield is the best captain we could chose but imo he shouldnt be in the team, on current form at least. But for some strange reason he is continually picked at 6 ahead of better options such as lomax, mcguire, ratchford and widdop he should be captain.
Spot on. That is why Lockers is the favourite. He is the only British based captain of a club who will be certain to play 80mins for England if he is fit.
I'm sorry but Sinfield is not certain to be in the England team, he shouldn't even be in now! Not as good as Lockers at 13 and not good enough to play 6 against Aus and NZ.
Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS
If Sinfield is playing he should be captain - he's clearly the best captain in Super League - the best candidates if he's not playing are all playing down under which brings its own problems. I've never particularly rated O'Loughlin, I don't think Tomkins is captaincy material and I'd rather leave Roby to do what he does best without thinking about anything else, so long term you'd have to say Graham and possibly Burgess are the stand out candidates.
Unless Sinfield's on the pitch.
How do work that one out? I don't dispute that he's a good captain but to say he's clearly the best when he's captaining an underperforming side to mid-table obscurity is just daft.
How do work that one out? I don't dispute that he's a good captain but to say he's clearly the best when he's captaining an underperforming side to mid-table obscurity is just daft.
Because he's the single most important reason why the Rhino's have been the best team in the competition for eight years. Not daft really, just obvious. Name me a current captain who's had anything even remotely approaching the impact Sinfield's had.
O’loughlin is 29 and has fewer caps than Tomkins, Where has this ‘guaranteed to start and play 80mins’ myth come from?
There are 6 guaranteed players in an England squad, 2 in Burgess and Graham are in the NRL, 1 is but wont be, but is a little ‘old guard’ in Ellis, one in Ryan Hall is a winger.
Which leaves two, one has undoubted quality but has alienated a large proportion of the fanbase and doesn’t have a particularly positive reputation with some other players, which should discount Tomkins,
Lastly we have a top class, 80minute hooker, who is at the coal face constantly, who has been massively committed to England, has led by example, has a conducted himself with great professionalism throughout his career and is about to come into his peak, Roby is the obvious answer
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