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Who should replace Jamie Peacock as next England Captain?

Poll ended at Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:26 am

James Graham
24
21%
Sam Burgess
4
3%
Sean O'Loughlin
36
31%
Sam Tomkins
5
4%
James Roby
16
14%
Kevin Sinfield
9
8%
Gareth Ellis
17
15%
Other
6
5%
 
Total votes : 117

Post Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:01 pm
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Some bizarre stuff on here about Lockers. Whether or not he'd make the best captain is a matter for debate but as far as LFs go he is easily the best in Britain at the moment and is therefore as guaranteed as anyone to get a starting spot.

Would he be as good in the second row as Hock or Ellis, probably not. But he is a LF, not a second rower! If we had two second rowers better than Hock at Wigan (or for England) I still wouldn't want him playing 13 ahead of Lockers.
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Post Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:05 pm
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If Sinfield is playing he should be captain - he's clearly the best captain in Super League - the best candidates if he's not playing are all playing down under which brings its own problems. I've never particularly rated O'Loughlin, I don't think Tomkins is captaincy material and I'd rather leave Roby to do what he does best without thinking about anything else, so long term you'd have to say Graham and possibly Burgess are the stand out candidates.

Unless Sinfield's on the pitch.
Post Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:49 pm
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Personally i would have Roby as captain with ellis and o'loughlin as vice! However I think Sinfield is the best captain we could chose but imo he shouldnt be in the team, on current form at least. But for some strange reason he is continually picked at 6 ahead of better options such as lomax, mcguire, ratchford and widdop he should be captain.
Post Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:12 pm
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Post Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:59 pm
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You can't have a captain who's based in the NRL.
Post Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:09 am
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Sheldon wrote:
You can't have a captain who's based in the NRL.


Spot on. That is why Lockers is the favourite. He is the only British based captain of a club who will be certain to play 80mins for England if he is fit.

I'm sorry but Sinfield is not certain to be in the England team, he shouldn't even be in now! Not as good as Lockers at 13 and not good enough to play 6 against Aus and NZ.
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is lockers certain to be in the england side though?......mcnamara likes playing burgess at 13 when he's fit.
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Big Jim Slade wrote:
If Sinfield is playing he should be captain - he's clearly the best captain in Super League - the best candidates if he's not playing are all playing down under which brings its own problems. I've never particularly rated O'Loughlin, I don't think Tomkins is captaincy material and I'd rather leave Roby to do what he does best without thinking about anything else, so long term you'd have to say Graham and possibly Burgess are the stand out candidates.

Unless Sinfield's on the pitch.


How do work that one out? I don't dispute that he's a good captain but to say he's clearly the best when he's captaining an underperforming side to mid-table obscurity is just daft.
Post Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:37 am
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MDW12 wrote:
How do work that one out? I don't dispute that he's a good captain but to say he's clearly the best when he's captaining an underperforming side to mid-table obscurity is just daft.


Because he's the single most important reason why the Rhino's have been the best team in the competition for eight years. Not daft really, just obvious. Name me a current captain who's had anything even remotely approaching the impact Sinfield's had.
Post Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:17 am
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O’loughlin is 29 and has fewer caps than Tomkins, Where has this ‘guaranteed to start and play 80mins’ myth come from?

There are 6 guaranteed players in an England squad, 2 in Burgess and Graham are in the NRL, 1 is but wont be, but is a little ‘old guard’ in Ellis, one in Ryan Hall is a winger.

Which leaves two, one has undoubted quality but has alienated a large proportion of the fanbase and doesn’t have a particularly positive reputation with some other players, which should discount Tomkins,

Lastly we have a top class, 80minute hooker, who is at the coal face constantly, who has been massively committed to England, has led by example, has a conducted himself with great professionalism throughout his career and is about to come into his peak, Roby is the obvious answer
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