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Guerrier wrote:

Rest Welbeck?

Did he put in enough effort on Tuesday to require a rest?

I agree I've never seen anybody offer so little when not in possesion. He just walks around on his own. I don't buy into this he's playing well, I acknowledge he has come up with a cracking goal against Sweden but has done very little of note elswhere. Bit of passenger for me.

Smiggs wrote:

I agree I've never seen anybody offer so little when not in possesion. He just walks around on his own. I don't buy into this he's playing well, I acknowledge he has come up with a cracking goal against Sweden but has done very little of note elswhere. Bit of passenger for me.

Agreed.

9 goals in 31 apps at club level too.

I think Welbeck's been worth his starting spot every time.

McClennan wrote:

I think Welbeck's been worth his starting spot every time.

I never saw the Ukraine game, so I can't comment. IMO, the France game he done very little yet received rave reviews. I read/heard somebody saying he had great touch and really troubled the French, I left the game thinking the opposite, I thought his touch lead him into much tougher situations and he rarely threatened. Although, to be fair to Wellbeck, England never had any desire to create for him so he was left doing the donkey work.

In the game against Sweden, I can't recall him doing anything of greatness until his goal. His goal was decent, I don't believe he intended it but it looked brilliant so fair player.

I've spoken before about Wellbeck, I actually don't mind him and I liked the look of him when he was on loan at Sunderland. He's tall, quick and seemed to have more to his game than just raw attributes. Fergie obviously likes him but I do wonder about his end product, he seems quite clumsy, but maybe that will come with age.

I'm not fan of Welbeck, but he's done the job we've needed and for the future it's great experience for him. As for his goal I thought it was one of the best of the tournament and completely intended.

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Ronaldo was class tonight. Say what you want about the guy during his time at United (diving, cheating, soft ar$e etc) but he just ooozes class. A better all round player than Messi imho.

We're the famous Wembley and we're going to Wembley

[John_D]

Conroy wrote:

We're the famous Wembley and we're going to Wembley

They can f--- right off

Conroy wrote:

We're the famous Wembley and we're going to Wembley

Parlour, 39, said: "I've always believed grassroots football is essential to the lifeblood of the game.

Hopefully a team of grassroots players isn't deprived of their chance of playing at Wembley by a group of ex pros earning some sponsorship pocket money.