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Uptoncat - like we once had Yorks,Lancs,Cumbria and Other Nationalities.Good idea but still the same old same old got selected for Great Britain unlike Origin games where you have to show up or stand a chance of being out of the Ozzie side.

It needs to be taken seriously for it to work. That starts with the players and their mindsets. If the players don't take it seriously then who will?

les-goose wrote:

Uptoncat - like we once had Yorks,Lancs,Cumbria and Other Nationalities.Good idea but still the same old same old got selected for Great Britain unlike Origin games where you have to show up or stand a chance of being out of the Ozzie side.

So if we had East vs West as a genuine selection match this would add intensity an, IF it could be marketed properley, there should be good numbers turning up to watch.
One of the big problems with the exiles game is the selection policy of the national coach.
There doesn't seem any genuine fofward planning.
I know we have the knights games, but some of those lads should be in the main event and this would allow some fringe players to play for the Knights .

Fergus wrote:

Watched Ireland v All Blacks this morning and of course the origin game earlier on in the week. Full of intensity, passion, brutality, and inspirational crowds.

Have been looking forward to exiles game all day hoping for a little bit of the same...........my god what a massive disappointment. The crowd is pitiful and the game has been very boring - yes I know its been raining.

In terms of comparing this to the standard of origin game would have to be someones idea of a truly terrible joke. One has to wander what sort of cricket score would be racked up by either of the state sides if they took on either England or their anzac leftovers!

Discuss.......

it was passing my mind how poor the game was as far as atmosphere at the ground.
I truly believe this exiles competition is another white elephant that some white collar worker has dreamed up to be the holy grail, no dowt it will of been the weasel Mr Lewis that left another legacy for the RFL to clean up.

there is a rivalry but due to lack of support it will never become the high tension game that sky would like to emulate

my views is scrap it and put the east verses west games on.
use the pennines to separate the two and sod putting imports in let us build our own little origin games on

Yorkshire Yorkshire Yorkshire

Sometimes I think Wakey fans take this chip on the shoulder no one ever picks our players stuff a bit far and frankly it gets a bit tedious.

Truth is it was a fairly decent game considering the weather.

As for a concept it's decent one for what it is.

For starters the War of the Roses was crap, utter rubbish I know I went to most of them. There may have been some pride in the Yorkshire shirt but none of the "Lancashire" players ever gave a toss.

As for our local opposition, the French - well there just not good enough and have not been for 40 years - hence no passion and no competition.

Then we have the home nations, Ireland, Wales and Scotland - all the player not good enough for England representing countries most have never even visited.

At least with the Exiles there is an element of pride and team mate v team mate as in Origin. I'm not suggesting for a moment it is or ever will be Origin but it's closer than the rest. It also pits the England lads against players of genuine NRL trained ability and at least is similar to playing Australia, sort of Australia light. Sure most are not the best but they are still better than most Northern Hemisphere players.

If you view Exiles as a training tool for playing the Aussies then short of playing NZ in a mid season series before playing them then it's as good as it ever going to get.

It needs to be three series - it needs money thrown at it - it needs some imagination, but above all it needs persistance.

I'm actually going the the Hudds one, why not what harm can it do - sometimes you have to swallow your pride - and to be fair the only Trinity players with a realistic shout was Amor and he's really a Leeds player and Aiton.

We would still have the same old players who would be selected for the test squad come what may even though some one else has played far better.Until those same old players dont get selected automaticly and know their place is at stake then things wont change as far as the England squad goes.This Exiles game could be good and worth while if the England coach chose a few other players to see what they could do but that wont happen.

Most of what you say may well be correct but, if the "Roses" game(s) were a direct line into the national team, then surely the "Lancashire" players would "give a toss".

The main gripe with the England team was the total lack of thought into the selection from our national coach. Six out of form Leeds players, including Peacock, who will be past it when the world cup comes around and Sinfield at stand off ??
I know players out of position is nothing new with either England or Great Britain (we played Farrel at 6 so many times) and this has more to do with the coach than the concept, but this does cause the fans to question what is going on.

The idea behind the Exiles games is good, but how can we make the games have more intensity and more popular with the punters ?

J.T wrote:

The 'Exiles' is a poor concept there will never be the intensity as who and what are they actually playing for? I can't believe it actually counts as an International. If we want to emulate Origin then we need to get a Yorkshire v Lancashire thing going and stick with it over a number of years so that you build the interest and the intensity so that it gives it a bit of history. Sadly we are always looking for a quick fix and trying to manufacture rivalries but it doesn't work like that. Was yesterdays game any better or more constructive than playing France or Wales?

Spot on

You can't take it seriously when just two games in, Rangi Chase has played twice, once for each team. How can you expect fans to have any kind of loyalty to the international game when it's clear the players haven't?

[J.T]

imwakefieldtillidie wrote:

You can't take it seriously when just two games in, Rangi Chase has played twice, once for each team. How can you expect fans to have any kind of loyalty to the international game when it's clear the players haven't?

You see it is a path into the England team but for the Exiles!