I'm a fan of the exiles concept, but tonight's game was spoiled partly by all the Exiles that had to withdraw, and partly by the conditions. Had they had a full squad to pick from, they'd have beaten us easily, and showed just how flawed McNamara's selections and tactics are. As it is, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he more or less sticks with the same side.
Why would anyone want to watch lancs vs Yorks and see people like Kev Brown, Wheeler or has beens like Morley when you can watch Tommy, Lima, Monaghan & Dureau?
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That was the most boring game ive watched in a long time.
James Roby is the most over hyped player ive ever come across. How many times did he pinch a few extra metres by running from dummy half instead of moving the ball wide quickly to the likes of Chase and Tomkins. Whats the point of having two attacking threats at 7 nd 1 if the hooker is never going to get the ball to them quickly.
It's a good job Roby was playing IMO! Chase and Sinfield offered nothing, so it was down to him most of the time...
Change in HBs DEFINITELY required...although I ain't got much hope of that!
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It's a good job Roby was playing IMO! Chase and Sinfield offered nothing, so it was down to him most of the time...
Change in HBs DEFINITELY required...although I ain't got much hope of that!
A lot more changes than just the halves needed. Peacock's past it, there are much better back rowers around than Tickle and JJB, and Ablett isn't a centre (don't think Charnley got one decent pass off him all night).
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Wigan Peer wrote:
We have no hope if we persist playing players who generate no interest amonst fans, and are at the end of their careers. We should be looking forward.
Spot on.
With the right team in place, one that will get the fans behind them, more people would turn up and there would be a better atmosphere. However, I found it really tough to support one side tonight. I was cheering tries from both sides! And so were loads of other fans. At other times I was so bored I was joining in with the inter-club sing-off.
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A lot more changes than just the halves needed. Peacock's past it, there are much better back rowers around than Tickle and JJB, and Ablett isn't a centre (don't think Charnley got one decent pass off him all night).
Oh I agree, but the halves is where the changes SHOULD start as it's the crux of the team.
An injection of youth wouldn't go a miss really in these sorts of games...
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I don't think the wingers or centres really saw much of the ball in attacking situations so it's hard to criticise them. Peacock was just disappointing. He really did look past it while Carvell and Mossop actually looked very good. Crabtree improved a bit in the second half although he wasn't quite as effective as I would have hoped.
Tickle had a very good game but there was still nothing to get excited about from him. He doesn't seem to have that much skill, he just seems to be very good at hitting a gap. In Super League there are far too many unspectacular workhorse forwards and not enough talented ball players.
We've got players like JJB who run the ball well and do lots of work but don't really trouble anyone when it comes to skill, or players like Wilkin who are very skilful and work hard but offer no real impact that might threaten the defence.
As for the halves, Sinfield and Chase still don't do it for me. Chase seems to struggle to fit in and Sinfield is a good kicker but just doesn't seem to have much to offer in the halves. At times it seemed like his only idea was to dummy to a player out wide turn around and fall backwards into the defence. I think we need to focus on the future when it comes to the halves and I'd be very worried if Sinfield was the best option for the 2013 World Cup.
I can honestly say that I have never been more bored at a RL game than I was tonight. Forget Tommy's injury, these things happen but no-one gave a monkeys tonight. 11,000+ attendance? Do me a favour, RLF/sky lies - it was nearer to 7K. Mates turned enemies? Yeah right. The problem is you can't generate an atmosphere in the way they tried to tonight. I cringed every time 'we will rock you' crackled over the 1980's speakers in situ at Langtree Park.
I overheard someone in the beer queue tonight with a great idea. Bring back Lancs v Yorks, £2000 to each of the winning players and all supporters of the winning team get their money back along with a free ticket to a SL match of their choice.
Players have something to play for, i.e. money and and England shirt and supporters have vested interest as well rather than asking themselves what possessed them to turn out to watch such a pointless and boring game. I'm not sure of the economics involved but there must be a better way than tonight.
I for one won't be returning in the current format and the overwhelming consensus was that many felt the same.
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SaintsFan wrote:
Spot on.
With the right team in place, one that will get the fans behind them, more people would turn up and there would be a better atmosphere. However, I found it really tough to support one side tonight. I was cheering tries from both sides! And so were loads of other fans. At other times I was so bored I was joining in with the inter-club sing-off.
So you were not one of the female saints fans in front of me who cheered all night for the exiles (Meli in particular!) and booed every time sam got the ball (as did others) I went with two saints fans who were very embarrassed by the childish booing and comments if it was wigan playing fair enough but England sorry it was pathetic.
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