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[Sheldon]

Hanley's on channel 9 now, love he can talk.

It will never happen but i would love to see an England under 20 team play in the Toyota Cup like the New Zealand Warriors, they could be based in Sydney for the whole season. That would be a great environment for those youngsters to progress in.

[Sheldon]

The Eclipse wrote:

It will never happen but i would love to see an England under 20 team play in the Toyota Cup like the New Zealand Warriors, they could be based in Sydney for the whole season. That would be a great environment for those youngsters to progress in.

New Zealand Warriors are a NRL club side, England aren't.

What makes people think English RL should be able to compete with Australia? Let's look at a few facts:

Money
Nrl income $150million a year (and about to go up to $250mill)
Rfl income $20mill

Nrl avg club income $15mil
SL avg club income $5mill

Jnrs
Australia 50'000 (+nz)
Uk 10,000

Australia Jnr funding $tens of millions
Uk jnr funding $tens of thousands

Australia player size boosted by significant number of islander heritage players
Uk player size ltd in a nation where the avg male is 5 10" and under 85kg

Nrl 90% of players eligible to represent Australia
SL 65% of players eligible to represent England

Seriously why do you think England could or should be better?

JB Down Under wrote:

What makes people think English RL should be able to compete with Australia? Let's look at a few facts:

Money
Nrl income $150million a year (and about to go up to $250mill)
Rfl income $20mill

Nrl avg club income $15mil
SL avg club income $5mill

Jnrs
Australia 50'000 (+nz)
Uk 10,000

Australia Jnr funding $tens of millions
Uk jnr funding $tens of thousands

Australia player size boosted by significant number of islander heritage players
Uk player size ltd in a nation where the avg male is 5 10" and under 85kg

Nrl 90% of players eligible to represent Australia
SL 65% of players eligible to represent England

Seriously why do you think England could or should be better?

Isn't it obvious? Just you wait until the benefits of having super league on the side of 15 delivery wagons comes through the system. The money and players will be flooding in to the game. It's worth millions in advertising, that is. Didn't you know?

JB Down Under wrote:

What makes people think English RL should be able to compete with Australia? Let's look at a few facts:

Money
Nrl income $150million a year (and about to go up to $250mill)
Rfl income $20mill

Nrl avg club income $15mil
SL avg club income $5mill

Jnrs
Australia 50'000 (+nz)
Uk 10,000

Australia Jnr funding $tens of millions
Uk jnr funding $tens of thousands

Australia player size boosted by significant number of islander heritage players
Uk player size ltd in a nation where the avg male is 5 10" and under 85kg

Nrl 90% of players eligible to represent Australia
SL 65% of players eligible to represent England

Seriously why do you think England could or should be better?

100% spot on and the debate can end there! The number of juniors playing the game being the most important stat, unfortunately our kids our ruled by the 'bright lights' of wendyball.

Hanley had an interview?

I was too busy looking at Mitchell Pearce' new girlfriend!

SCF wrote:

Hanley had an interview?

I was too busy looking at Mitchell Pearce' new girlfriend!

he was saying the usaul thing about only 4 teams are good enough to win things in england, but he was also saying players like tomkins should give the nrl a go to improve their game

adelaide-giant.no9 wrote:

he was saying the usaul thing about only 4 teams are good enough to win things in england, but he was also saying players like tomkins should give the nrl a go to improve their game

Woooooosh!

nw636 wrote:

The problems begin in junior RL. At a peak time to coach skills into kids, junior coaches obsessed with winning at all costs get the big kids to run through everyone and the little nippy kids to run around everyone, rather than teach them to pass their way through. I've seen it time and time again watching junior RL, and it poses a significant problem, as junior players are less likely to pick up essential ball skills once they hit academy age.

This thread only serves to confirm that there are so many factors involved, it will take a very long time for the gap to be bridged.

I think your spot on. Think this is particulary evident why we have no centres, the ones who get noticed are the big strong ones at U16's who run through people. Not the ones who pt their wingers in a gap.

The likes of Deacon, Sinfield etc probably wouldn't get scouted now. They won't the strongest, fatsest in the world, but they organsied and were superb passers and kickers.