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Gamer 111 wrote:

Of course, number 7 is what every fan wants right now so if true good news

you owe me a new keyboard Funniest post on here in ages.....

Please expand on this theory, that every fan wants the London Broncos to move to The New River and develop it? Have you been to the New River Stadium? There are 1,000 seats.......the RFL might let the club away with 10,000 at a push.....the ground is open on 3 sides......Superleague is the top RL competition in Europe and regardless of what we think of Caravan Park in East Hull or Belle View......they at least are already proper stadiums.

2013 is the last full seaon before Licences are handed out in 2014......a move to the New River is akin to rolling out the welcome mat for Halifax RLFC.

markrammond wrote:

Hello all,

These are the rumours I heard over the weekend
4) Caro offered contract at St Helens for 2013

The lad is a promissing player to us but I'm sure Saints will have better players coming through so I don't see this. he is way off the finished article and barely deserves a 1st team spot ATM.

3) Lease on Stoop not renewed for 2013 by London Broncos
6) Skolars, RFL and other hirers of Wood Green keen to redevelop New River
7) Broncos would need to cooperate if this is to become reality

If we are indeed not staying at the Stoop then this may have some legs. Only with the help of the RFL (ala Bradford etc.) are we ever going to get a stable home IMO. I have never been to this place but if it can be re-developed and the RFL are behind us then who knows.

David Waite in frame to join London Broncos alongside the Penrith/St Helens former Head Coach Royce Simmons

I am conviced we will have a Aussie coach next season. Royce Simmons is available so it may be true. The two of them would be expensive though which is not like DH. Maybe he knows something we are missing.

9) Powell has had big dust up with Dorn who will leave if Powell stays

The way Dorn has been performing i say 'don't hand around until the end of season mate' Do us all a favour and free up a space.

10) Sarginson refusing to sign long term contract

He still has to prove he is SL standard but we live in hope. If he was playing in a winning team he would be playing better though. Maybe he wants too much for a year ATM. He isn't Tearing trees up yet and hasn't learn't to defend at SL standard so you can't expect him to be offered big money. If we wern't short of quality SL players i doubt he would be playing every game.


I'm led to believe that the review is complete in terms of a plan of actions but that the club simply cannot find a new Head Coach for the rest of the season, hence the silence is down to embarrassment.

If Simmons is coming next season I don't see why he can't start now - he is available. Seems to be a contradiction.

Easy
Rammo

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gutterfax wrote:

you owe me a new keyboard Funniest post on here in ages.....

Please expand on this theory, that every fan wants the London Broncos to move to The New River and develop it? Have you been to the New River Stadium? There are 1,000 seats.......the RFL might let the club away with 10,000 at a push.....the ground is open on 3 sides......Superleague is the top RL competition in Europe and regardless of what we think of Caravan Park in East Hull or Belle View......they at least are already proper stadiums.

2013 is the last full seaon before Licences are handed out in 2014......a move to the New River is akin to rolling out the welcome mat for Halifax RLFC.

Can people please read this post before commenting on number 7? An absolutely ludicrous idea.

Snoopy wrote:

3) Lease on Stoop not renewed for 2013 by London Broncos
6) Skolars, RFL and other hirers of Wood Green keen to redevelop New River
7) Broncos would need to cooperate if this is to become reality

If we are indeed not staying at the Stoop then this may have some legs. Only with the help of the RFL (ala Bradford etc.) are we ever going to get a stable home IMO. I have never been to this place but if it can be re-developed and the RFL are behind us then who knows.

It's got the same legs that Douglas Bader had.

New River Stadium has a 1,000 seater stand and terracing on 2 of the other sides...as well as an 8 lane running track all the way around the pitch. Conservative estimates are 1 million pounds per 1,000 seats for building stands, with additional costs involved for offices and other facilities. Let's say a conservative 20 million shall we?

Planning consent for development of "non-housing" developments in London boroughs have been known to take years, especially, given that an area of land surrounding the proposed new stadium would take away other sports pitches from the community (see pic below). Licences are up for renewal in 2 years time.....

We have moved in 1997, 2000, 2002 and 2006.......none of these moves resulted in increased attendances....Skolars get about 500 at games.....has someone worked out that tottenham residents will flock to watch top flight RL?

in addition.....would the council really be prepared to just hand over the land? Does the RFL need a 10k/15k seater stadium in London? Has the club got the 5+ years minimum it would take to make this a reality? Would it be called the David Hughes Memorial Stadium?

Some of us already knew that Sargi had turned down a longer deal and it wouldn't surprise many of us if he left at the end of this season.

Re Dorn, I can well believe that he has had a falling out with Powell as unlike a lot of you on here, I can't understand why he's not getting in the team. If he goes, thats fine if we can replace him with a better player...that's a big if in our circumstances, imo (we won't have Robbo either).

As for the New River...forget it, it won't happen.

markrammond wrote:

Hello all,

These are the rumours I heard over the weekend

1) Powell retained till end of season and under 20s coach next season
2) New fitness coach from Salford City Reds is working at the club now
3) Lease on Stoop not renewed for 2013 by London Broncos
4) Caro offered contract at St Helens for 2013
5) Gower and Bailey declined Head Coach partnership tandem role
6) Skolars, RFL and other hirers of Wood Green keen to redevelop New River
7) Broncos would need to cooperate if this is to become reality
David Waite in frame to join London Broncos alongside the Penrith/St Helens former Head Coach Royce Simmons
9) Powell has had big dust up with Dorn who will leave if Powell stays
10) Sarginson refusing to sign long term contract

I'm led to believe that the review is complete in terms of a plan of actions but that the club simply cannot find a new Head Coach for the rest of the season, hence the silence is down to embarrassment.

Easy
Rammo

Thanks for all that.

It's often the case with player movements that rumours have subbstance in that agents or clubs converse with each other quite often. The signing is the thing that takes the longest and a club may have made an enquiry about a player and it gets out.

Hello all,

I think the New River Stadium concept has a lot of mileage.

I'm told that the council owns the huge amount of land shown on the diagram and that there are teams leasing various space including Tottenham Hotspur and a range of Union and amateur clubs.

The council will be happy to turn over this land to be run by private enterprise. I daresay there may be a lot of reason to keep the council involved as I'd assume it is not profit making at present and bear all the costs.

London Skolars, the RFL and the other land renters are happy to move on whilst the Athletics guys seldom use the running track so that could go.

I think you could develop a Grand Stand opposite the current stand to hold several thousand more and maybe some terraces to join the two.

Whilst it might not meet the RFL criteria it wouldn't matter because we won't be removed from SL.

For me the dream combination would be a willing council with a patch of land in London plus a variety of contributors.

I don't see how any other option would get council support or the land and after squatting for decades this sounds good to me.

I know some people like the Stoop and the Bar but at £3.95 a pint I am not sure that it represents good value to the beer hungry visitors and I think these kind of price hikes in a recession can be traced to the RU club wanting more cash across the Board to sustain higher expectation.

Cheers
Rammo

Interesting stuff.

Do many clubs back home own their own grounds? I have no idea. I am aware that over here, not many do, if any, at all. Manly for example pay Manly Warringah Council hundreds of thousands in rent a year to play there. The council also allow other events there, from Local Rugby League grand finals to public events like an agricultural show, but not in the regular NRL season.

It makes sense here that teams play away from their home stomping grounds, as stadia offer clubs good deals to play at their purpose made venues, like the Olympic Stadium or the Footy Stadium (both with their various sponsored name changes).

As we no longer have a spiritual home in Craven Cottage as such, is it such a hardship to move? Again.

The Caro to St Helens one comes from a rumour up there that they want to sign a threequarter but the threequarter is yet to agree a deal because he's not sure whether he wants to leave the area he's in now. So suggestions arose that it was a London player obviously and Sarginson, Caro and even Clubb have been suggested.

The David Hughes Memorial Stadium?

You sick (unt