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nikos wrote:

Joel was immense last season, and while we have not felt the loss as much as feared due to Goulding stepping up.

Who can forget his CC try, which won us the match and his try vs the exiles, neither of which Goulding would have scored.

I too saw him as the natural replacement for SOL, but who knows he may be back?

I certainty hope so.

How is Joel doing in yawnion? This may sound rough but I would hope not so brilliantly so that he might see the grass wasnt so greener maybe.

Of course, seeing his brother(s) lift trophys may help that cause as well.

nikos wrote:

Joel was immense last season, and while we have not felt the loss as much as feared due to Goulding stepping up.

Who can forget his CC try, which won us the match and his try vs the exiles, neither of which Goulding would have scored.

I too saw him as the natural replacement for SOL, but who knows he may be back?

Joel was far from being "immense" last season.

He was decent in an unfamiliar position and scored a couple of fantastic try's, but in no way he was "immense"

The thing people need to be careful of is getting carried away, this year and its signings are going better than anybody could imagine, this season we will lose Carmont, Tommy, Lima and in all likelihood Finch (and Roberts), without any question that presents a huge amount of problems for the management team and they really need to get our signings right, otherwise, we will quickly drop back into the back, we are losing 4 of the best players in SL this time.

tugglesf78 wrote:

Joel was far from being "immense" last season.

He was decent in an unfamiliar position and scored a couple of fantastic try's, but in no way he was "immense"

Definitely. We don't need Joel back. Our back 3 is perfect as it is and Farrell/Hughes are good replacements.

blackpoolwigan wrote:

How is Joel doing in yawnion? This may sound rough but I would hope not so brilliantly so that he might see the grass wasnt so greener maybe.

Of course, seeing his brother(s) lift trophys may help that cause as well.

scored on his debut and hardly played since...not even making the bench most of the time.
he must be either
1. rubbing his hands about getting paid for doing nothing
2. frustrated

my monies on 2

I thought Joel had pretty much accepted that he would spend what was left of the season playing for the second string side and playing a few games in the LV Cup. Wasn't it stated that he wanted to learn the game and his role first rather than being thrown right in like other converts have been?

Cherry.Pie wrote:

I thought Joel had pretty much accepted that he would spend what was left of the season playing for the second string side and playing a few games in the LV Cup. Wasn't it stated that he wanted to learn the game and his role first rather than being thrown right in like other converts have been?

so its option 1 ?

What people tend to forget when discussing topics like this is that, just because a player is a better player they don't necessarily make the team a better team. Hoffman is, without doubt, an excellent player but the team, especially the pack, are functioning at close to perfection at them moment. How much better could it get? To put Hoffman into the team you would have to take someone else out and, in my opinion, that could very well result in a nett loss. Who knows?

Phuzzy wrote:

What people tend to forget when discussing topics like this is that, just because a player is a better player they don't necessarily make the team a better team. Hoffman is, without doubt, an excellent player but the team, especially the pack, are functioning at close to perfection at them moment. How much better could it get? To put Hoffman into the team you would have to take someone else out and, in my opinion, that could very well result in a nett loss. Who knows?

Excellent point, I was only thinking about Hoffman's leaving yesterday morning. No doubting Hoffmans talent, and there is equally no doubting the strength of this team. In 1966 Jack Charlton asked Alf Ramsey why he, Jack Charlton, was in the team. Ramsey said words to the effect of "i play to a system, and that does not mean i necessarily play the best players". Great psychology. Its a team game, very talented individuals help of course, but one man can't take on a team. IL should take great credit for the management team he has put together, thats where our strength lies at the moment.