Re: Trouble At The RFL : Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:11 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

Dunno about this Toon. You deregister a player but not cancel a contract. He's taken out of the playing roster and in theory be classed as a internal club staff worker on light duties.

you may be right RD that was just my understanding from a few convos but we definatley didnt de register Currie. Suppose it would depend if the club wanted to keep the player or release them really.

Anyway looking forward to a good season 2nd Feb cannot come quick enough

Re: Trouble At The RFL : Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:28 am  

Didnt ben currie play last season? My understanding is that you can only apply for it if the player is injured before the season starts and isn't going to play a part in that season??

Re: Trouble At The RFL : Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:29 am  

The last one i can remember us de-registering was Hicks, he was on pre season training and then Joel Monaghan became available. We asked if we could pay Hicks off his full contract to bring Monaghan in which they agreed to as we hadnt started the season.

Re: Trouble At The RFL : Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:36 pm  

I'm pretty sure we deregistered Benny Harrison the year he had loads of surgery and clean ups. We never re-registered him again afterwards though.

Re: Trouble At The RFL : Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:15 pm  

According to League Express the clubs agreed in 2015 that any player suffering an anticipated season ending injury before the season starts can be taken off the salary cap, should that player return ahead of schedule, they will only be allowed to commence playing should the club have space in their cap.

This was extended in 2018 after clubs voted to include any season ending injuries from mid season internationals.

It only mentions Dom Manfredi as having used it so far, although there may have been others. Either way it would seem Currie would not have been taken off cap as he played games in 2017 & 2018. Harrison could have been taken off in 2016 as his last game was 2015. Grix and Hicks predated this ruling, I think Hicks technically retired due to injury which allowed us to take him off cap, he got a pay out and went on to play another season or so NRL I think?

Re: Trouble At The RFL : Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:24 pm  

Alffi_7 wrote:

According to League Express the clubs agreed in 2015 that any player suffering an anticipated season ending injury before the season starts can be taken off the salary cap, should that player return ahead of schedule, they will only be allowed to commence playing should the club have space in their cap.

This was extended in 2018 after clubs voted to include any season ending injuries from mid season internationals.

It only mentions Dom Manfredi as having used it so far, although there may have been others. Either way it would seem Currie would not have been taken off cap as he played games in 2017 & 2018. Harrison could have been taken off in 2016 as his last game was 2015. Grix and Hicks predated this ruling, I think Hicks technically retired due to injury which allowed us to take him off cap, he got a pay out and went on to play another season or so NRL I think?

It's a perfectly sensible rule. Although it runs the risk of the less wealthy clubs overstretching themselves financially, but then again we don't need a nanny RFL as they should concentrate on arresting the demise of the game.

Re: Trouble At The RFL : Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:14 pm  

Rocky Bobby wrote:

I'm pretty sure we deregistered Benny Harrison the year he had loads of surgery and clean ups. We never re-registered him again afterwards though.

Wasn’t Harrison ruled out for the rest of the season but then Wakefield kindly agreed to take him on loan even though they knew he’d not be able to play for them? They kindly paid his wages to make space for you to bring someone in?

Re: Trouble At The RFL : Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:21 pm  

Don't see the issue with it, or why everyone is upset about it. They've lost a key player to their team and also compounded by being in a key position. Prior to a ball being kicked especially.

Now there should be a caveat that they must replace like fo like not use money got a player in another position, which I have hear cas maybe doing. That's against the core principle of this ruling and should not be permitted.

Re: Trouble At The RFL : Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:38 am  

Les Norton wrote:

Wasn’t Harrison ruled out for the rest of the season but then Wakefield kindly agreed to take him on loan even though they knew he’d not be able to play for them? They kindly paid his wages to make space for you to bring someone in?

Part right, he was loaned to Wakefield which left space in the cap to bring in Sandow early. He wasn’t ruled out for the season though, his debut was delayed due to complications, but he went on the make a few appearances for them I think.

Re: Trouble At The RFL : Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:38 am  

Alffi_7 wrote:

Part right, he was loaned to Wakefield which left space in the cap to bring in Sandow early. He wasn’t ruled out for the season though, his debut was delayed due to complications, but he went on the make a few appearances for them I think.

Spoke to Ben at the time. The club proposed he was deregistered while he had the surgery that all needed doing, with a view to getting him back on the books the next year. That was the thin end of the wedge for him. Once he was off the books, it was always going to be hard for him to get his contract renewed, regardless of what was agreed in good faith.