Re: RLIF board approves return of Great Britain Lions : Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:21 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

The union Lions play in an all red shirt yet I see nobody protesting that it’s Wales-centric.

Blue and Green socks, white shorts.....but unlike league, they concentrate othe disliking the opposition rather than RL self hatred.....

Re: RLIF board approves return of Great Britain Lions : Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:26 pm  

puroresu_boy wrote: This shouldn't even be a debate. Irish are not British. The team should be called British & Irish Lions. There should be no national anthem either. Whether there is an Irish player or not would be absurd to have a team which claims to represent Ireland yet has an anthem singing about protecting the English Queen. Nonsense. When Ireland starts to include the UK then you'll have a point. PS the current Queen Elizabeth is the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and 'not' an 'English Queen'. The last Queen of England was Queen Anne.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Que ... at_Britain

puroresu_boy wrote: This shouldn't even be a debate. Irish are not British. The team should be called British & Irish Lions. There should be no national anthem either. Whether there is an Irish player or not would be absurd to have a team which claims to represent Ireland yet has an anthem singing about protecting the English Queen. Nonsense. When Ireland starts to include the UK then you'll have a point. PS the current Queen Elizabeth is the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and 'not' an 'English Queen'. The last Queen of England was Queen Anne.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Que ... at_Britain

Re: RLIF board approves return of Great Britain Lions : Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:30 pm  

RLRealist wrote:

Nonsense. When Ireland starts to include the UK hell will have frozen over.

accuracy Timothy......accuracy!

[Bullseye]

Re: RLIF board approves return of Great Britain Lions : Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:42 pm  

Call Me God wrote:

Blue and Green socks, white shorts.....but unlike league, they concentrate othe disliking the opposition rather than RL self hatred.....

I know. If a sport ever lacked self esteem it's British RL.

Re: RLIF board approves return of Great Britain Lions : Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:53 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

I know. If a sport ever lacked self esteem it's British RL.

Agree 100% but it doesn't need to be cloaked in jingoism. Keep the Blue and Red Chevron........it's iconic and as an irishman I am proud to day I own a version of what is a great sports shirt.........but don't drape yourselves in a brexit blanket of "we're great you're not" rubbish......blue and green sox and the British isles badge and we're done......just call us the lions!

Re: RLIF board approves return of Great Britain Lions : Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:19 pm  

Call Me God wrote:

Agree 100% but it doesn't need to be cloaked in jingoism. Keep the Blue and Red Chevron........it's iconic and as an irishman I am proud to day I own a version of what is a great sports shirt.........but don't drape yourselves in a brexit blanket of "we're great you're not" rubbish......blue and green sox and the British isles badge and we're done......just call us the lions!

What a waste of time, change an iconic near century old brand just so you and the other 3 ‘proud irishmen’ that care about rl can latch onto the the team ???

Bore off

[Bullseye]

Re: RLIF board approves return of Great Britain Lions : Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:09 am  

GB played as England for the early decades of the game.

Changed to GB as more Welshmen got into the side and then a few Scots.

I've no issue with it if they had the British Isles badge. The Lion wasn't on the shirt until the 70s anyway.

Re: RLIF board approves return of Great Britain Lions : Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:56 am  

RLRealist wrote:

Nonsense. When Ireland starts to include the UK then you'll have a point.

What are you talking about? We're talking about a sports team that seemingly wants to call itself British and Irish Lions (or Great Britain and Irish Lions - I've seen both written recently) but then doesn't want to do very much to represent the Irishness of the team. It's supposed to be two nations coming together as one on an equal basis. Or four nations as one, if you take the view like the British Isles XIII badge does that it's England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland coming together. Either way, everyone is supposed to be equal.

If that's not the aim, then drop the charade about it being a British and Irish Lions, and let's just call it Great Britain and select players from England, Scotland and Wales and take the British Isles III badge off the shirt.

Having done that though, I would then argue that we should be playing as GB all the time.

Re: RLIF board approves return of Great Britain Lions : Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:58 am  

Muggins wrote:

Having done that though, I would then argue that we should be playing as GB all the time.

So after all that you do agree with me. Cool.

Re: RLIF board approves return of Great Britain Lions : Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:10 am  

RLRealist wrote:

So after all that you do agree with me. Cool.

On that point, yes. On the other point, no. As David Brent would say, different points to be made.