Re: Without doubt... : Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:58 pm  

Doesn't feel right moaning after beating Saints but Isa completely lost it tonight, a performance like that next week and we'll get punished.
Our lack of discipline more than anything else will cost us a chance of getting to Old Trafford.

Re: Without doubt... : Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:01 pm  

Considering all the circumstances surrounding this week to go to St. Helens and get a win is a fantastic effort.

Re: Without doubt... : Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:27 pm  

Wire fan here so not a Wigan lover but how any of you can not put a positive perspective on that tonight is beyond me! You were magnificent! Through gritted teeth..... well done and I've not enjoyed a game more than that all season!

Re: Without doubt... : Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:28 pm  

apollosghost wrote:

Doesn't feel right moaning after beating Saints but Isa completely lost it tonight, a performance like that next week and we'll get punished.
Our lack of discipline more than anything else will cost us a chance of getting to Old Trafford.

A performance like that next week and we have a decent chance of getting a win.

Re: Without doubt... : Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:35 pm  

CobraCraig wrote:

A performance like that next week and we have a decent chance of getting a win.

I've no doubt we've got the talent to beat Hull but the number of stupid penalties we give away is infuriating and with a kicker like Sneyd in their ranks we just can't keep on doing it.

Re: Without doubt... : Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:42 pm  

Positives:

Sam Tomkins, a different player than the one who set sail for New Zealand, yet effective in different ways
Gildart is a real threat.
Lockers is everything to the team, and can pretty much do anything.
Micky looking better
Burgess looking fitter


Negatives

Tommy. Him running into the defensive line on the 5th tackle when in their 20 when he had options to spread to ball out wide or put a grubber in, sums him up. He had no idea and just took a tackle. Terrible 7.
Marshall/Gelling. Liability in defence. Saint had success attacking down their side, but strangely give up.
TT, sign.

Re: Without doubt... : Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:57 pm  

Very hard to be unhappy after a win like that ... so I'm not going to pretend that I am.

Great tries, and great strength in defence. We totally dominated a fairly decent St Helens team who only got a sniff thanks to yet another contender for 'Howler of the Year' from the video ref (I honestly would not pay these thickies in washers).

However, it's true what others have said. Unforced errors and poor discipline are still the bane of this Wigan team's life. If we could just cut down on that stuff a little bit, we'd be on the front foot way more than we are.

Re: Without doubt... : Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:36 pm  

Darwen Warrior wrote:

I'm not ignoring any facts and I wasn't saying we weren't giving unnecessary penalties away. Had Isa's sin bin occurred fifteen minutes earlier, for example, it could have cost us the game.

On the back of an energy sapping Wembley loss, we showed lots of character tonight and, as well as playing very well, the lads ran themselves into the ground. We've just beaten Saints and the first two posts on this thread are moans. Cut them a bit of slack. They deserve it.

The lads will NEVER get any credit from some on here mate. Your post was spot on. To beat Saints like that after last week was magnificent and there is a lot to be positive about. Jonh won't see it though so don't waste your energy!!

Re: Without doubt... : Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:42 pm  

jonh wrote:

The single bumbest team in SL. Constantly give away unnecessary penalties, give away penalties whilst we have possession and late in the tackle count.

A game that should be comfortable we are entering the last quarter hanging on.

We just beat Saints away the week after Wembley to put ourselves 1 point off the semis..... and you're moaning?

Re: Without doubt... : Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:08 am  

apollosghost wrote:

Doesn't feel right moaning after beating Saints but Isa completely lost it tonight, a performance like that next week and we'll get punished.
Our lack of discipline more than anything else will cost us a chance of getting to Old Trafford.

I thought Isa stayed on the right side of losing the plot and in fact impacted on Saints and threw a couple of their lads off their games. He got binned in the last minute but the job was done and the game was won by that point. He played a huge part in keeping our intensity up when it looked like dropping a little after a fast start. I've already mentioned his tackle on Walmsley as well....wow!

There were a couple of poor performances in the middle of a fantastic effort but I don't know how we can be anything but positive about that.