The Whiffy Kipper wrote:
If he had played a full game I would have given him an 8 but he didn't so I didn't.
Well I guess that shows you recognise his quality at least. However, in the time he was on, which was on a par or better than the other middles, he did more than the any other including the ones you rated above him (Bullock and Flower). In other words you're still rating him by different criteria than the rest of the players.
In many ways, I guess that could be taken as a compliment but in all truthfulness I think you're just looking for reasons not to give him credit which, as I've said on many occasions, I don't understand. We're talking about a guy who's given his entire career to Wigan despite numerous offers from both here and the NRL. Exactly the sort of player loyalty you supposedly set so much store by. Did he sleep with your wife/motorbike or something?