Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:05 pm  

So, our chairman is at it again, having a pop at one of 'the bad guys' in the SL cabal for not entirely abiding by the rules (again): https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wigan-chairman-ian-lenagan-should-resign-says-andrew-chalmers/ While I agree with him in principle, really all this does is paint a target on our collective backs. Doesn't it? I mean, he's right to say what he thinks is wrong, but he isn't making any friends doing it.

So, our chairman is at it again, having a pop at one of 'the bad guys' in the SL cabal for not entirely abiding by the rules (again): https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wigan-chairman-ian-lenagan-should-resign-says-andrew-chalmers/ While I agree with him in principle, really all this does is paint a target on our collective backs. Doesn't it? I mean, he's right to say what he thinks is wrong, but he isn't making any friends doing it.

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:35 pm  

He really needs to stop writing these articles and just shut the hell up.

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Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:53 pm  

Nothus wrote:

He really needs to stop writing these articles and just shut the hell up.

I bet 'hell' wasn't the word you had in mind. And I agree.

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:37 pm  

Yes, huge fan of Chalmers and all he's done for us, but this stuff makes me cringe. I know there are people on here who love it when he " sticks it up 'em," but really, there's a limit.
I've been involved in Sports clubs all my adult life, and the genera policy has always been, when we play each other, you're the enemy for the duration of the match, but the rest of the time we're all in it together for the benefit of the game. Im not pretending Lenegan is a particularly endearing individual but what's to be gained by getting so confrontational? Who knows what's down the road and if we will need his support one day?
It's also just plain unprofessional. Presumably the Bulls have a social media policy for all staff? So if a 15 year old Scholarship player goes on Twitter and tells all his mates that another club are a set of w@@@@@s and their u16 coach is a t@@t, then (quite rightly) he will be sent to Mark Dunning for an almighty rollicking. All the lad has to do is point out some of the musings of the leader of the organisation and that's that. Poor old Mark left wriggling in his chair, changing the conversation!
Oh well, rough with the smooth I guess, but I wish he'd tone it down a bit.

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:09 pm  

I think Chalmers is basically trying to paint himself as champion of the lower league clubs by taking potshots at SL clubs. Which is, tbh, a sensible stance to take as the SL clubs have pretty much laid down the fact that they're going to only look after themselves and damn every other club outside the SL bubble.

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:00 pm  

Looks to me, reading between the lines. that Chalmers swipe is less about the breach of salary cap and more about SL breaking away

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:28 pm  

Sedgebull wrote:

Yes, huge fan of Chalmers and all he's done for us, but this stuff makes me cringe. I know there are people on here who love it when he " sticks it up 'em," but really, there's a limit.
I've been involved in Sports clubs all my adult life, and the genera policy has always been, when we play each other, you're the enemy for the duration of the match, but the rest of the time we're all in it together for the benefit of the game. Im not pretending Lenegan is a particularly endearing individual but what's to be gained by getting so confrontational? Who knows what's down the road and if we will need his support one day?
It's also just plain unprofessional. Presumably the Bulls have a social media policy for all staff? So if a 15 year old Scholarship player goes on Twitter and tells all his mates that another club are a set of w@@@@@s and their u16 coach is a t@@t, then (quite rightly) he will be sent to Mark Dunning for an almighty rollicking. All the lad has to do is point out some of the musings of the leader of the organisation and that's that. Poor old Mark left wriggling in his chair, changing the conversation!
Oh well, rough with the smooth I guess, but I wish he'd tone it down a bit.

Agreed. It's not a good article. While I understand his frustrations of what's gone on and the "old boys" club SL has become, he just needs to let it go. You see the reaction of some of our championship friends on social media, you can tell we're on the up as they are starting to get rattled. 6k yesterday. A good squad. The youth conveyor belt is ticking over again. He's running the club well (two years ago we turned up at Hull KR with barely a squad, wearing previous seasons jersey with the sponsor taped over) yesterday we watched us beat a good Fev team in front of 6k. He's doing a good job and should concentrate one us and let everyone else please themselves.

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:14 am  

It seems a bit more personal to me. I wonder if AC has been given a better brief of the Bulls history and downfall, of which Wigan played a large part with Maurice Lindsey convincing Caisley breaking the Salary Cap was fine and if caught just a slap on the wrists would follow.

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:06 am  

Blotto wrote:

It seems a bit more personal to me. I wonder if AC has been given a better brief of the Bulls history and downfall, of which Wigan played a large part with Maurice Lindsey convincing Caisley breaking the Salary Cap was fine and if caught just a slap on the wrists would follow.

If he really knew that much about our club's history, he might recall we did almost exactly the same thing Wigan have just done, breaking the cap over a technicality.
Except ours was worse because it was in a season where we actually won the GF and we didn't even get a points deduction as a result!

Why has he decided to become this self appointed mouthpiece for the lower leagues? He just needs to wind his neck in, making enemies out of those with power and control can only hurt the club in the long run.

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:14 am  

Nothus wrote:

If he really knew that much about our club's history, he might recall we did almost exactly the same thing Wigan have just done, breaking the cap over a technicality.
Except ours was worse because it was in a season where we actually won the GF and we didn't even get a points deduction as a result!

Why has he decided to become this self appointed mouthpiece for the lower leagues? He just needs to wind his neck in, making enemies out of those with power and control can only hurt the club in the long run.

Absolutely spot on.

It was funny to begin with but this is only going to turn him into a Beaumont. Keep doing what you are doing with the club Mr C that's p155ing enough people off without actually saying anything. You've won the Championship boys over but now let someone else fire their bullets.