Re: 2019 predictions : Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:57 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

What does a grand final tell you about individual players? Before you answer that question just remember Ryan Bailey has 6 of them... A very successful team carried by the likes of Danny Mag, Robbie Burrows, Sinfield etc... Now you are panic buying, throwing cash around hoping to fix something up.... Throwing money at a player that didn`t even want to come to England in the first place! That would ring alarm bells for me. I rated JJB now he is getting old and slowing down, Stevie Ward is a great player if you can get him on the field and playing, It is a risk putting a lot of hope and pressure on 3 big signings for me when you could have taken a whole different approach.

You’re right that one player can win a GF that isn’t that good.....12 players though, that’s stretching the “average” claim you’re clinging to.

I’m guessing you spoke to Trent Merrin personally and know what his true feelings were on coming to England? Oh no....you read a story online so it must be true and it tells you how exactly he’ll go on the field.

Re: 2019 predictions : Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:05 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

You’re right that one player can win a GF that isn’t that good.....12 players though, that’s stretching the “average” claim you’re clinging to.

I’m guessing you spoke to Trent Merrin personally and know what his true feelings were on coming to England? Oh no....you read a story online so it must be true and it tells you how exactly he’ll go on the field.

No but he spoke to Wayne Bennett and you can go and watch, listen or read him saying Trent called him personally and told him he did not want to go to England or is Wayne Bennett lying now?

Re: 2019 predictions : Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:15 pm  

homme vaste wrote: No but he spoke to Wayne Bennett and you can go and watch, listen or read him saying Trent called him personally and told him he did not want to go to England or is Wayne Bennett lying now? https://www.5thtackle.com/2018/12/17/tr ... er-league/ And you can read this where Bennett told him he should join Super League and Merrin says it was a goal of his to come over to Super League. Is Merrin lying?

homme vaste wrote: No but he spoke to Wayne Bennett and you can go and watch, listen or read him saying Trent called him personally and told him he did not want to go to England or is Wayne Bennett lying now? https://www.5thtackle.com/2018/12/17/tr ... er-league/ And you can read this where Bennett told him he should join Super League and Merrin says it was a goal of his to come over to Super League. Is Merrin lying?

Re: 2019 predictions : Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:23 pm  

ThePrinter wrote: https://www.5thtackle.com/2018/12/17/trent-merrin-wayne-bennett-convinced-me-to-join-super-league/ And you can read this where Bennett told him he should join Super League and Merrin says it was a goal of his to come over to Super League. Is Merrin lying? Well he isn`t exactly going to say I would have preferred not to come but I had no other options once he`s signed is he? Maybe look at something before he was a Leeds Rhinos Employee? "Trent Merrin contacted me last Sunday and said he was being pushed out of Penrith and they had a deal for him to play in England for the next few years," "Trent said he would prefer not to go to England and he rang me looking for advice and asked if there was anything I could do." https://www.triplem.com.au/story/trent- ... ack-116591 Basically asking Wayne to get him a deal in Australia

ThePrinter wrote: https://www.5thtackle.com/2018/12/17/trent-merrin-wayne-bennett-convinced-me-to-join-super-league/ And you can read this where Bennett told him he should join Super League and Merrin says it was a goal of his to come over to Super League. Is Merrin lying? Well he isn`t exactly going to say I would have preferred not to come but I had no other options once he`s signed is he? Maybe look at something before he was a Leeds Rhinos Employee? "Trent Merrin contacted me last Sunday and said he was being pushed out of Penrith and they had a deal for him to play in England for the next few years," "Trent said he would prefer not to go to England and he rang me looking for advice and asked if there was anything I could do." https://www.triplem.com.au/story/trent- ... ack-116591 Basically asking Wayne to get him a deal in Australia

Re: 2019 predictions : Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:47 pm  

homme vaste wrote: Well he isn`t exactly going to say I would have preferred not to come but I had no other options once he`s signed is he? Maybe look at something before he was a Leeds Rhinos Employee? "Trent Merrin contacted me last Sunday and said he was being pushed out of Penrith and they had a deal for him to play in England for the next few years," "Trent said he would prefer not to go to England and he rang me looking for advice and asked if there was anything I could do." https://www.triplem.com.au/story/trent- ... ack-116591 Basically asking Wayne to get him a deal in Australia So basically he said she said. Maybe Brough and Kopczak would’ve preferred more money elsewhere but the only offer they had and had to settle for was Wakefield and their confirmed well under budget money. Let’s be honest was Wakefield the first choice for most of your players given your huge below the SC budget?

homme vaste wrote: Well he isn`t exactly going to say I would have preferred not to come but I had no other options once he`s signed is he? Maybe look at something before he was a Leeds Rhinos Employee? "Trent Merrin contacted me last Sunday and said he was being pushed out of Penrith and they had a deal for him to play in England for the next few years," "Trent said he would prefer not to go to England and he rang me looking for advice and asked if there was anything I could do." https://www.triplem.com.au/story/trent- ... ack-116591 Basically asking Wayne to get him a deal in Australia So basically he said she said. Maybe Brough and Kopczak would’ve preferred more money elsewhere but the only offer they had and had to settle for was Wakefield and their confirmed well under budget money. Let’s be honest was Wakefield the first choice for most of your players given your huge below the SC budget?

Re: 2019 predictions : Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:04 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

So basically he said she said.

Maybe Brough and Kopczak would’ve preferred more money elsewhere but the only offer they had and had to settle for was Wakefield and their confirmed well under budget money. Let’s be honest was Wakefield the first choice for most of your players given your huge below the SC budget?

Little bit of a difference been that Brough and Kops live in West Yorkshire and don`t have to move 9,000 miles away and settle in a whole new country and culture, my point wasn`t that Leeds wasn`t his first option, my point was he did not want to move to the other side of the world, all I am saying is with the track record of players settling over here that would ring alarm bells for me.

Re: 2019 predictions : Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:06 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

in what at we're Leeds lucky to avoid the MPG, they were well clear with a game to spare and in reality were never in the The running for MPG so why were they lucky, and why can't they finish second and win GF they did it in 2017 after being in middle 8's in 2016 and Warrington made both finals after being in middle 8's year before, and as for barely strenthening, 2 halfback one centre two new forwards including two margue top draw signings, cannot think of many sides in SL history strengthens so much in off season, Leeds certainly not added so much in an off season since GH took over, I think you are hopping nay praying for Leeds to fail because deep down you know they will be pushing for top 3-5 maybe not GF next season but will be in the trophies again within 2 seasons.
Oh and Wakefield top 8 certainties, don't think so, one half decent seasona in 20 years does not make them a top side and contenders, avoiding the bottom 4 will be an achievement for them, anything else a bonus, Hull Kr, Huddersfield all strengthens much more than Wakefield and cannot see Hull being as bad this year and if they are Radford will be gone by Easter.

it's not like you to talk Trinity down is it By the way, it's two top 5 finishes since CC tool over, for what it's worth.

Anyway how exactly have they strengthened much more?

ATEOTD imo on-field success is more about your existing team & keeping the best of them and adding a few bits of quality and depth to that, plus a good coach - which is what I think Trinity and a few other teams have done. Not wholesale changes or one good signing.
Hudds have basically just brought in Uate who's no doubt a good player and Frawley who's less so, Oh aye and Grix from us, plus holmes from Fev and young Butterworth from the Bulls
Hull KR has had a huge clearout, so will have needed to bring in plenty of new faces, which as a team that's been through similar a few times, they'll take time to gel as a side anyway. long story short I'll have trinity's top 25 players over Hull KR's or Hudds tbh, no offense to them.

Anyway, I'm sure you'll disagree but hey ho.

Re: 2019 predictions : Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:21 pm  

Always a bit of pot luck picking at this time of year, with the usual injuries and form issues teams go through, anyway I'll go.

Saints
Wire
Wigan
Cas
Wakey
Leeds
Catalans
Hull
Hudds
Hull KR
Salford
London

Wire GF
Saints Cup

Re: 2019 predictions : Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:29 pm  

Cas
Saints
Wire
Wigan
Hull
Huddersfield
Leeds
Cats
Wakefield
HKR
Salford
London

Re: 2019 predictions : Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:04 am  

ThePrinter wrote:

Moon wasn’t anywhere near our best 2 players last year and Hall whilst a great player didn’t get any service.

You and others can claim the Leeds squad is bang average.....YET most of them have Grand Final rings and that’s a FACT and reality is only Wigan can match that claim.

Of our top 20...12 of them are Grand Finals winners and of the other 8 you have 2 Tongan internationals and an Aussie international and NRL GF winner......does your or other teams have that proven ability to win the main prize?

Ok so if you knock his comment back saying they weren’t the best players, who were the top 2 at Leeds last season?

I’ve noticed you’re always quick to dismiss other posters comments but never actually back it up with anything.