Letter from the Trusts Lawyers to WMDC : Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:13 am  

The Trust's lawyers Walton & Co sent this letter to Wakefield MDC planning department yesterday. The Trust are delighted that Walton & Co have agreed to act for the Trust. https://twitter.com/WakefieldTrust/status/1059741362583691264 Legal arguments can be complicated but at it very heart this is about morals, intent and promises made. Newcold did have to be separate stand alone application, because of it's height, it was taller than was allowed for under the outline application. It is our opinion, as you all know, that the fact they also did not want it to count towards the trigger point was not made clear to both the members and the public and in actual fact, we all thought it was until it was too late. However, this application for Kitwave DOES NOT need to be separate application, there is not any reasonable reason why this should not be submitted under the outline and count towards the trigger value. The fact and choice that Yorkcourt, Henry Boot & Kitwave have made is clearly an attempt to circumvent and undermine the whole planning process and the only reason they are doing that is to avoid doing what they promised they were going to do, build a stadium. They have got what they want and now they are sticking two fingers up and the citizens of Wakefield and supporters of Trinity and laughing in their faces. Wakefield Council members, and most importantly the leadership (are you listening Mr Box?), need to stand up and say enough is enough. We will not let you make and then break promises and pockets £100's of millions of pounds at the expense of our citizens!

The Trust's lawyers Walton & Co sent this letter to Wakefield MDC planning department yesterday. The Trust are delighted that Walton & Co have agreed to act for the Trust. https://twitter.com/WakefieldTrust/status/1059741362583691264 Legal arguments can be complicated but at it very heart this is about morals, intent and promises made. Newcold did have to be separate stand alone application, because of it's height, it was taller than was allowed for under the outline application. It is our opinion, as you all know, that the fact they also did not want it to count towards the trigger point was not made clear to both the members and the public and in actual fact, we all thought it was until it was too late. However, this application for Kitwave DOES NOT need to be separate application, there is not any reasonable reason why this should not be submitted under the outline and count towards the trigger value. The fact and choice that Yorkcourt, Henry Boot & Kitwave have made is clearly an attempt to circumvent and undermine the whole planning process and the only reason they are doing that is to avoid doing what they promised they were going to do, build a stadium. They have got what they want and now they are sticking two fingers up and the citizens of Wakefield and supporters of Trinity and laughing in their faces. Wakefield Council members, and most importantly the leadership (are you listening Mr Box?), need to stand up and say enough is enough. We will not let you make and then break promises and pockets £100's of millions of pounds at the expense of our citizens!

Re: Letter from the Trusts Lawyers to WMDC : Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:18 am  

Inflatable_Armadillo wrote: The Trust's lawyers Walton & Co sent this letter to Wakefield MDC planning department yesterday. The Trust are delighted that Walton & Co have agreed to act for the Trust. https://twitter.com/WakefieldTrust/status/1059741362583691264 Legal arguments can be complicated but at it very heart this is about morals, intent and promises made. Newcold did have to be separate stand alone application, because of it's height, it was taller than was allowed for under the outline application. It is our opinion, as you all know, that the fact they also did not want it to count towards the trigger point was not made clear to both the members and the public and in actual fact, we all thought it was until it was too late. However, this application for Kitwave DOES NOT need to be separate application, there is not any reasonable reason why this should not be submitted under the outline and count towards the trigger value. The fact and choice that Yorkcourt, Henry Boot & Kitwave have made is clearly an attempt to circumvent and undermine the whole planning process and the only reason they are doing that is to avoid doing what they promised they were going to do, build a stadium. They have got what they want and now they are sticking two fingers up and the citizens of Wakefield and supporters of Trinity and laughing in their faces. Wakefield Council members, and most importantly the leadership (are you listening Mr Box?), need to stand up and say enough is enough. We will not let you make and then break promises and pockets £100's of millions of pounds at the expense of our citizens! Gloves are off, good - when do you need some money?

Inflatable_Armadillo wrote: The Trust's lawyers Walton & Co sent this letter to Wakefield MDC planning department yesterday. The Trust are delighted that Walton & Co have agreed to act for the Trust. https://twitter.com/WakefieldTrust/status/1059741362583691264 Legal arguments can be complicated but at it very heart this is about morals, intent and promises made. Newcold did have to be separate stand alone application, because of it's height, it was taller than was allowed for under the outline application. It is our opinion, as you all know, that the fact they also did not want it to count towards the trigger point was not made clear to both the members and the public and in actual fact, we all thought it was until it was too late. However, this application for Kitwave DOES NOT need to be separate application, there is not any reasonable reason why this should not be submitted under the outline and count towards the trigger value. The fact and choice that Yorkcourt, Henry Boot & Kitwave have made is clearly an attempt to circumvent and undermine the whole planning process and the only reason they are doing that is to avoid doing what they promised they were going to do, build a stadium. They have got what they want and now they are sticking two fingers up and the citizens of Wakefield and supporters of Trinity and laughing in their faces. Wakefield Council members, and most importantly the leadership (are you listening Mr Box?), need to stand up and say enough is enough. We will not let you make and then break promises and pockets £100's of millions of pounds at the expense of our citizens! Gloves are off, good - when do you need some money?

Re: Letter from the Trusts Lawyers to WMDC : Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:33 am  

I'm not on Twitter and can't work out how to make the letter big enough to read.
Can you post another link, IA ??

Re: Letter from the Trusts Lawyers to WMDC : Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:48 am  

FIL wrote: I'm not on Twitter and can't work out how to make the letter big enough to read. Can you post another link, IA ?? Try this direct link to the PDF file FIL https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bmViABY_VQkzPStKRLzLgEXGr6eCYTXg

FIL wrote: I'm not on Twitter and can't work out how to make the letter big enough to read. Can you post another link, IA ?? Try this direct link to the PDF file FIL https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bmViABY_VQkzPStKRLzLgEXGr6eCYTXg

Re: Letter from the Trusts Lawyers to WMDC : Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:50 am  

Spot on...cheers IA

Re: Letter from the Trusts Lawyers to WMDC : Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:54 am  

Excellent news. Glad the fight has started in ernest.

Re: Letter from the Trusts Lawyers to WMDC : Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:56 am  

Brilliant thanks iA

Re: Letter from the Trusts Lawyers to WMDC : Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:57 am  

Double post

Re: Letter from the Trusts Lawyers to WMDC : Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:57 am  

vastman wrote:

Gloves are off, good - when do you need some money?

Keep it in your pocket for now mate... we don't know how deep we need you to dig yet... it depends on the WMDC planning committee!

Re: Letter from the Trusts Lawyers to WMDC : Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:22 pm  

Inflatable_Armadillo wrote: The Trust's lawyers Walton & Co sent this letter to Wakefield MDC planning department yesterday. The Trust are delighted that Walton & Co have agreed to act for the Trust. https://twitter.com/WakefieldTrust/status/1059741362583691264 Legal arguments can be complicated but at it very heart this is about morals, intent and promises made. Newcold did have to be separate stand alone application, because of it's height, it was taller than was allowed for under the outline application. It is our opinion, as you all know, that the fact they also did not want it to count towards the trigger point was not made clear to both the members and the public and in actual fact, we all thought it was until it was too late. However, this application for Kitwave DOES NOT need to be separate application, there is not any reasonable reason why this should not be submitted under the outline and count towards the trigger value. The fact and choice that Yorkcourt, Henry Boot & Kitwave have made is clearly an attempt to circumvent and undermine the whole planning process and the only reason they are doing that is to avoid doing what they promised they were going to do, build a stadium. They have got what they want and now they are sticking two fingers up and the citizens of Wakefield and supporters of Trinity and laughing in their faces. Wakefield Council members, and most importantly the leadership (are you listening Mr Box?), need to stand up and say enough is enough. We will not let you make and then break promises and pockets £100's of millions of pounds at the expense of our citizens! Great to see our legal representation has now been put forward IA! Im looking forward to see how the subject is addressed by the Planning Committee. One thing i would like to ask, and this is not a criticism or dig in anyway, just a genuine question. You say that morals, intent and promises are at the heart of our legal argument but do you believe we have a good legal argument? The letter from Yorkcourts representatives strongly argue there is no legal case for them to answer. Im worried the council may see this as an easy route of escape. They have already shown that morals and promises mean very little to them...

Inflatable_Armadillo wrote: The Trust's lawyers Walton & Co sent this letter to Wakefield MDC planning department yesterday. The Trust are delighted that Walton & Co have agreed to act for the Trust. https://twitter.com/WakefieldTrust/status/1059741362583691264 Legal arguments can be complicated but at it very heart this is about morals, intent and promises made. Newcold did have to be separate stand alone application, because of it's height, it was taller than was allowed for under the outline application. It is our opinion, as you all know, that the fact they also did not want it to count towards the trigger point was not made clear to both the members and the public and in actual fact, we all thought it was until it was too late. However, this application for Kitwave DOES NOT need to be separate application, there is not any reasonable reason why this should not be submitted under the outline and count towards the trigger value. The fact and choice that Yorkcourt, Henry Boot & Kitwave have made is clearly an attempt to circumvent and undermine the whole planning process and the only reason they are doing that is to avoid doing what they promised they were going to do, build a stadium. They have got what they want and now they are sticking two fingers up and the citizens of Wakefield and supporters of Trinity and laughing in their faces. Wakefield Council members, and most importantly the leadership (are you listening Mr Box?), need to stand up and say enough is enough. We will not let you make and then break promises and pockets £100's of millions of pounds at the expense of our citizens! Great to see our legal representation has now been put forward IA! Im looking forward to see how the subject is addressed by the Planning Committee. One thing i would like to ask, and this is not a criticism or dig in anyway, just a genuine question. You say that morals, intent and promises are at the heart of our legal argument but do you believe we have a good legal argument? The letter from Yorkcourts representatives strongly argue there is no legal case for them to answer. Im worried the council may see this as an easy route of escape. They have already shown that morals and promises mean very little to them...