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Post Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:49 am
Posted by brian2 on Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:49 am
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London Broncos and Ealing will upgrade Vallis Way to a capacity of 4,080 initially with a 1,040 additional stand in a winter development to host Super League.


Excellent move - we need to fill it week in week out. CMG email Mr Hughes......
Re: Vallis Way
Post Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:53 am
Posted by Robert Flack on Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:53 am
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It is imperative that whoever takes charge of the marketing effort at the club, budget permitting, takes a fresh approach to the club's marketing and aesthetics. Let's learn from what HAS NOT WORKED in the past and fully embrace the future. There is virtually no 'match day experience' at Vallis Way and the demographic needs to be families and younger generations.

If I hear the song 'London calling', the weird song from the 80s they play after a try or 'Bonkers' by Dizzee Rascal after a goal, I will scream. And update the sound system because the music is key. The future of the club does not lie in playing only to the tastes of geriatrics, with full respect. We should take our marketing lead from the Toronto Wolfpack (again, within the budgetary constraints, though our promotion to Super League will lead to fresh injections of capital).

Match-day experience:

1. The sound system cuts out during announcements and has done so in every home game this season. This is amateur hour. The music is nowhere near loud enough to create an atmosphere. If you are constrained by planning laws on this, at least fix the sound system and employ someone who knows what they are doing to create a proper playlist at the start of the season that will engage a younger audience and families. Toronto's 'party vibe' would be ideal but difficult to replicate without significant investment.

2. Catering - The bar they have added is OK but it's not enough of a draw. We need to work the 'alternative' / 'hipster' angle, and the food and drink available should reflect it. If the club are curious as to what I mean here, walk down Maltby Street market or Drury street market on a Saturday to see what this hipster vibe looks like. Even the Skolars offer a variety of craft beers. Basic barbecue does not cut it and will not attract new fans with different tastes, which is key in London. The Long walk as you approach the ground is an ideal place to put rows of stalls and tents etc. would benefit local small businesses to and create a party vibe from the outset.

3. Mascots - Buck and Dusty need upgrades. The current versions look devoid of character and unfriendly compared to their 1997 counterparts with big floppy features and stupid big shoes. Take a look at the original Buck here: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/137/32145 ... z.jpg?zz=1. SO MUCH BETTER. Chris Warren built a 'story' around these guys and brought them into the experience, calling Buck a silly horse etc, races at half time etc. etc. It was fun. Now Buck is just there but is never introduced or really brought into the experience. Kids come for the mascots and end up staying for the Rugby League, as I did 20 years ago.

4. Club shop - in desperate need of an upgrade despite all the hard work that goes into it. Transactions take far too long with the technology they have and need to be near instant when paying by card to maximize revenue. The cost of fixing this is small and should be addressed. The selection in the club shop needs to be expanded and ideally some pro designers would be brought in to make the apparel appealing to a younger audience (ala Toronto). Subtle upgrades to the club's logo (to make it simpler and monochrome - lose the metallic effect, that's so 90's) could help here (Again, think Toronto's bold T shape that you see EVERYONE wearing at their home games). Lastly, BSK's shirts bearing our logo (solid block grey on read or black) just does not work - it looks appalling.

5. Some kind of on-pitch activity (together with PA) at half time. Again, an attraction for casual fans.

6. Others...

MARKETING

1. Note how Toronto market the game as 'Rugby' rather than 'Rugby League' - I don't think we should be marketing the game as 'different' as most people are utterly ignorant of both codes. Accordingly, we should just call it 'rugby' - union doesn't own the word and we're not really looking to convert Union heads in London.

2. Focus on the individual - it annoys me somewhat that everyone in rugby league is waiting on Eddie Hearn to come in and save the sport. He's not a genius. One of his main ideas is to create superstars. He realises how important individuals are to marketing successfully. Marketing efforts at the clubs should be directed to marketing key individuals not just vague notions of the 'team' (Alex Walker is now the obvious example as someone who could have great stature in the game and its great to hear his Essex accent in post-match interviews).

3. Free tickets - let's follow the Toronto model of giving away free tickets and promotions to local schools, community clubs, rugby clubs etc.. What's the downside to this? Greater takings at the bar?

4. Robert Cialdini (Influence) - the club need to read this book.

5. Others...

The above is no criticism of the club as I appreciate that it has been up against it financially and has made enormous strides in other areas. But to be a true success in Super League the marketing effort and match day experience needs a total overhaul to compete as an attractive proposition in London, not just trying the same old tactics to cater for an ageing audience.
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Post Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:50 am
Posted by Bostwick on Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:50 am
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As a club London Broncos have a lot of work to do in attracting more fans. New fans need to be attracted and retained.
We have become a club where a nucleus of die hard fans turn up and have a few beers, watch a game of rugby and go home. Not much effort is made to make it anything more than that.
Would hope that the club can grasp the opportunity that promotion has given them to raise its profile and pull in the numbers that we once had and then even more.
The clubs attitude needs to change. The "All our fans are a load of drunks" needs to go. The club needs to think before they act. Too many times they have done things which alienate the few fans that still attend.
Let us go forward for a brighter future.
Re: Vallis Way
Post Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:17 am
Posted by jbuzza on Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:17 am
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Some great suggestions above. These needed to be addressed even at the Championship level in order to grow the fan base.

London is not short of craft breweries and street food vendors that could improve catering. Half time heroes were often good entertainment. With bigger crowds the home fans might be thinking about getting to the ground earlier for various reasons. Why not have regular age group games before main game, we have the advantage of 2 all weather pitches ?
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Post Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:57 am
Posted by PC Plum on Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:57 am
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The post above is excellent, and if the powers that be are reading, notes should be taken.
My thoughts:
1) Sign a competent addition to the staff, to support Neil on all matters off field and match day.
2) Better engage voluntary support to improve match day resourcing.
3) Yes, club shop is adequate, but something more permanent would be better.
4) Market the match day locally as an event; make it an event; promote it as rugby; engage the local community like Toronto do.
5) I still love my idea flagged a while ago of a hot tub experience, watch the game and have a drink from the hot tub …. it worked in 20/20
6) There are RFL rules around curtain raisers, especially if the Academy are playing, but in conjunction with Neil, I manged to run two London Junior League games on pitch 2, pre match – it needs coordination but very do-able.
7) Half time entertainment is important. Dance troupe ? Kids games ? Mascot races ? Adults making a prat of themselves, etc
8) Have to say I like the playlists but yes, the sound quality needs to improved.
9) The barriering on the coaches side needs to be sorted. With any sort of crowd that area needs addressing as there is effectively only two ‘safe’ levels. It needs to be tiered. But of course, those monstrosities will still be in the way.
10) Dedicate one stand to away fans; and part of the other stand to families / schools
11) Hopefully a new toilet block will be built to support the new stand.
Re: Vallis Way
Post Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:27 pm
Posted by northernbloke on Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:27 pm
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Pretty sure LJL would happily jump at the chance to play junior league games at Trailfinders, as would a fair few of the open age teams, but play it on the main pitch.
Is there a suggestion here that a “new” “temporary” additional stand has been approved?
Re: Vallis Way
Post Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:34 pm
Posted by Robert Flack on Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:34 pm
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Yes - it has been confirmed that a new stand is approved. The club provided paperwork to that effect to the RFL.
Re: Vallis Way
Post Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:49 pm
Posted by Dave Lister on Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:49 pm
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Where's this new stand going?
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Re: Vallis Way
Post Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:00 pm
Posted by Bostwick on Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:00 pm
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As I understand it. Behind the posts at the open end where the houses are.
Re: Vallis Way
Post Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:07 pm
Posted by jbuzza on Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:07 pm
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Bostwick wrote:
As I understand it. Behind the posts at the open end where the houses are.
Not sure where else it could go really.
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