Re: Jukes ‘ The Million Pound ‘ mistake : Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:51 am  

reffy wrote:

Because he wasn’t sure and wanted to check, he gave the VR the correct ‘No Try ‘ call because there was a possible knock on. By the same reasoning, he wasn’t sure so he didn’t blow for it.
If they hadn’t scored it would just have been a decision in play that the ref either got right or not.

But he had called it on the field as no knock on , therefore he thought it wasn't a knock on so should have given a try , but then if needed ask to double check it? Surely?

[Bullseye]

Re: Jukes ‘ The Million Pound ‘ mistake : Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:54 am  

atomic wrote:

If you have any good 19 year olds on account, they'll be off to pastures new. You build em the elite will take them.

Short sighted approach.

Re: Jukes ‘ The Million Pound ‘ mistake : Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:59 am  

Harold Rigby Jnr wrote:

But he had called it on the field as no knock on , therefore he thought it wasn't a knock on so should have given a try , but then if needed ask to double check it? Surely?

He let the play continue then he called it “No Try” which suggested he thought there may have been a knock on.

Re: Jukes ‘ The Million Pound ‘ mistake : Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:14 pm  

reffy wrote:

He let the play continue then he called it “No Try” which suggested he thought there may have been a knock on.

Well if he thought there may have been a knock on, then he should have immediately blown up and awarded Leigh head and feed at the scrum. That is my point.

For he to allow play to carry on , he has obviously called it as good, hence a "TRY" should have been signaled.

His actions however could appear to some as though he thought it was a knock on, but let it go to the detriment of Leigh, not expecting Cas to break and score , then his backside fell out, knowing that SKY TV will be all over the play prior and had to change his decision to "NO TRY" due to the said knock on.

However I would never question that myself

Re: Jukes ‘ The Million Pound ‘ mistake : Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:19 pm  

Although I don't believe Jukes was the right man for the job I think our failing in SL was how our pack ended up at the tail end of the season. One thing we had was size, power & aggression int front row when we had the likes of Hock, Weston & Acton playing but due to injuries & suspensions we couldn't control & dominate in the middle like we did earlier int season. Losing those 3 units & replacing them with Greg Richards was always going to impact too greatly on our pack no disrespect to Richards but for SL we ended up with a powder puff front row. Losing Mortimer for the playoffs also impacted us too. We need to move on that was last year & get behind Purtill & the lads.

Re: Jukes ‘ The Million Pound ‘ mistake : Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:01 pm  

Bread basket wrote:

.... we couldn't control & dominate in the middle like we did earlier int season

When we lost the first five games.

Re: Jukes ‘ The Million Pound ‘ mistake : Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:15 pm  

We won 3 out of the first 6 beating Stains, Hudds & wire the last 2 quite comfortably. We lost to Leeds in round 3 by 3 points & in round 7 v Wakey we had full control of that game until we lost Drinkwater to injury in the 2nd half. Our pack could control the game better earlier in the the season to how we finished it with the players available. A big factor into why we finished the season in a wimper cos our forwards available weren't up to the level required physically.

Re: Jukes ‘ The Million Pound ‘ mistake : Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:42 pm  

reffy wrote:

When we lost the first five games.

We won 3 of the 1 st 6 and were looking very comfortable going to Wakey , whereupon the truly atrocious officiating started

As pointed out above , we ended up a ' busted ' team by the 8s and lost both the players we brought in to bolster the squad , and even then a dropped pass to Matty Dawson with 2 minutes to go at Wire would have seen us safe

Very fine margins , unlike 2005

Re: Jukes ‘ The Million Pound ‘ mistake : Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:00 pm  

Aye, cut to the chase, carve it on a tree, it was a conspiracy by all the incompetent referees that stitched us us.

No dropped balls, no missed tackles, no boring play, no indisciple; all down to the refs ( and RFL)

Re: Jukes ‘ The Million Pound ‘ mistake : Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:17 pm  

reffy wrote:

Aye, cut to the chase, carve it on a tree, it was a conspiracy by all the incompetent referees that stitched us us.

No dropped balls, no missed tackles, no boring play, no indisciple; all down to the refs ( and RFL)

No conspiracy , just perhaps subconscious bias , the point being we were competitive in all but about 5 games , 2 against Cas , who did much the same to everybody , and strangely 2 against a Danny Craven inspired Widnes , and in tight games a single decision , a single 50/50 going against you can and did cost us wins

But all history now , looking forward to Sheffield next Sunday