Re: Reiss Butterworth : Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:00 am  

Scarey71 wrote:

What's coming through behind Reiss?

With a season from Flanagan on 2019 what's on the radar for 2020 and is it better than Butterworth? I can't see us doing anything other than consolidating a Ch place next year if we are promoted?

Maybe Kear is looking longer term than we are?

Young hooker called Cameron Berry. Joe Berrys lad. Looks quite exciting on the limited times ive seen him

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:54 am  

As it's a loan until the end of the season, I'd imagine that it's possibly with a view to making a permanent move for him after seeing him up close in training.

It would be a shame to again lose another of our home grown players, but as others have said, it's a short career and if he's got the chance to play full time in SL it would be churlish to stand in his way. Assuming that Cas provide some level of compensation for signing him (which I think they have to by law, but it's unlike to be a high fee)

[Bulliac]

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:12 am  

Nothus wrote:

Exactly, contracts mean nothing in the lower leagues. Hell they barely mean anything even in SL.

It's funny though that contracts seemed rather important when we signed Iestyn Harris?

I mean, I know what you're saying, which is basically that we can't hold on to any player who doens't want to be here and I totally agree. But, I'd assume the contract, even with the famous SL get out clause, would usually give some kind of right to compensation to the 'losing' club, even if it has to ruled on by some arbitration committee. We were very quick, for instance, to offer a contract to the younger Trueman brother when elder brother Jake chose to go to Cas.

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:51 am  

Bulliac wrote:

It's funny though that contracts seemed rather important when we signed Iestyn Harris?

I mean, I know what you're saying, which is basically that we can't hold on to any player who doens't want to be here and I totally agree. But, I'd assume the contract, even with the famous SL get out clause, would usually give some kind of right to compensation to the 'losing' club, even if it has to ruled on by some arbitration committee. We were very quick, for instance, to offer a contract to the younger Trueman brother when elder brother Jake chose to go to Cas.

Yes there will always be compensation involved, but it won't be much.
But when people start quoting how many months a player still has left to run on a contract, that is when they essentially become worthless. As soon as a SL club decides to make a move, he could have 100 months left to run and it won't mean anything.

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:03 pm  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

If it’s Dwyer as rumoured on Twitter that would be pretty disappointing (and unnecessary)

Get the unnecessary comment but he would score a tremendous amount of tries at this level. Scored 6 for fev game before last

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:11 pm  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

If it’s Dwyer as rumoured on Twitter that would be pretty disappointing (and unnecessary)

Really!? 6 tries for Fev the other week. I'd have him in a heart beat. Still would like to Keep Reiss though, very classy player.

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:30 pm  

Lets not forget that most of the other young stars that we have lost in the last few years were free to go due to the club going bust and that probably persuaded them to go. There is a totally different atmosphere and owner here now which hopefully makes young players, their agents and parents feel differently rather than getting out while you can before we fold.
There is clearly now a future for good young players rather than how it was 20+ months ago.

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:44 am  

Bull Mania wrote:

Really!? 6 tries for Fev the other week. I'd have him in a heart beat. Still would like to Keep Reiss though, very classy player.

Yeah against Rochdale. A couple of years back he was coming off the bench and scoring at will in SL. I think it would be a great addition

[Bullseye]

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:02 am  

While I think Dwyer is a good player all our four hookers are under contract for 2019 so unless someone is leaving then I think our priorities lie elsewhere.

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:01 am  

Bullseye wrote:

While I think Dwyer is a good player all our four hookers are under contract for 2019 so unless someone is leaving then I think our priorities lie elsewhere.

Hallas has the 9 shirt but he's not a hooker in a million years. He's a back up loose imo.
So that means we have Flanagan (good but old) Halafihi (steady) and Butterworth (not played all year, possibly leaving).

We absolutely need a new hooker for 2019. I rate Dwyer but I'm slightly concerned at his lack of game time at Leeds and rumours of off-field issues.