Re: Reiss Butterworth : Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:57 am  

MicktheGled wrote: What initial press release was this? The one which we put out last night (embargoed till 9.30am) clearly stated the agreement between ourselves and Castleford - player loan swap deal involving Reiss Butterworth and James Green. The T&A had initially reported the story wrong, so a quick phonecall changed that mistake. Good move all around with both players returning to their parent clubs at the end of the season. To quote Andrew Chalmers yeserday: "Bradford Bulls are not a selling club." I stand corrected, it wasn't a press release from Bradford. However tweets and articles like this https://twitter.com/M_Shaw1/status/1016415047424315392 as well as the article in the T&A which state that Reiss has signed for Cas, with no mention of a loan deal (apart from Green coming the other way ON LOAN) don't inspire confidence in fans who have seen their best young players leave for rivals for years. Lets face it, if it had been initially announced that both moves were loans until the end of the season many pages of this thread wouldn't exist. Right? Anyway, I'm glad thanks for clearing this up Mick, and now we can look forward to Reiss being an integral part of our club for years to come.

MicktheGled wrote: What initial press release was this? The one which we put out last night (embargoed till 9.30am) clearly stated the agreement between ourselves and Castleford - player loan swap deal involving Reiss Butterworth and James Green. The T&A had initially reported the story wrong, so a quick phonecall changed that mistake. Good move all around with both players returning to their parent clubs at the end of the season. To quote Andrew Chalmers yeserday: "Bradford Bulls are not a selling club." I stand corrected, it wasn't a press release from Bradford. However tweets and articles like this https://twitter.com/M_Shaw1/status/1016415047424315392 as well as the article in the T&A which state that Reiss has signed for Cas, with no mention of a loan deal (apart from Green coming the other way ON LOAN) don't inspire confidence in fans who have seen their best young players leave for rivals for years. Lets face it, if it had been initially announced that both moves were loans until the end of the season many pages of this thread wouldn't exist. Right? Anyway, I'm glad thanks for clearing this up Mick, and now we can look forward to Reiss being an integral part of our club for years to come.

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:31 am  

Fr13daY wrote: MicktheGled wrote: What initial press release was this? The one which we put out last night (embargoed till 9.30am) clearly stated the agreement between ourselves and Castleford - player loan swap deal involving Reiss Butterworth and James Green. The T&A had initially reported the story wrong, so a quick phonecall changed that mistake. Good move all around with both players returning to their parent clubs at the end of the season. To quote Andrew Chalmers yeserday: "Bradford Bulls are not a selling club." I stand corrected, it wasn't a press release from Bradford. However tweets and articles like this https://twitter.com/M_Shaw1/status/1016415047424315392 as well as the article in the T&A which state that Reiss has signed for Cas, with no mention of a loan deal (apart from Green coming the other way ON LOAN) don't inspire confidence in fans who have seen their best young players leave for rivals for years. Lets face it, if it had been initially announced that both moves were loans until the end of the season many pages of this thread wouldn't exist. Right? Anyway, I'm glad thanks for clearing this up Mick, and now we can look forward to Reiss being an integral part of our club for years to come. No worries, obviously the T&A had two pieces of the four piece jigsaw. Reiss Butterworth still has 28 months to run on his Bradford contract.

Fr13daY wrote: MicktheGled wrote: What initial press release was this? The one which we put out last night (embargoed till 9.30am) clearly stated the agreement between ourselves and Castleford - player loan swap deal involving Reiss Butterworth and James Green. The T&A had initially reported the story wrong, so a quick phonecall changed that mistake. Good move all around with both players returning to their parent clubs at the end of the season. To quote Andrew Chalmers yeserday: "Bradford Bulls are not a selling club." I stand corrected, it wasn't a press release from Bradford. However tweets and articles like this https://twitter.com/M_Shaw1/status/1016415047424315392 as well as the article in the T&A which state that Reiss has signed for Cas, with no mention of a loan deal (apart from Green coming the other way ON LOAN) don't inspire confidence in fans who have seen their best young players leave for rivals for years. Lets face it, if it had been initially announced that both moves were loans until the end of the season many pages of this thread wouldn't exist. Right? Anyway, I'm glad thanks for clearing this up Mick, and now we can look forward to Reiss being an integral part of our club for years to come. No worries, obviously the T&A had two pieces of the four piece jigsaw. Reiss Butterworth still has 28 months to run on his Bradford contract.

[Bulliac]

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:07 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

Played very well in a struggling Batley team too. As Zapper said, if he does leave, it would be out loss, big time. It would be on par with watching Cameron Scott, Jake Trueman etc ply their trade at their respected clubs.

Only way i could see Cas taking him on loan, and him coming back to us, is maybe they want to trial him before purchasing him as a replacement for Milner. But i'll be very surprised if we see him in a Bulls shirt

Don't forget he's under contract until the end of 2020.

I'm not saying that is the 'be all and end all' of the situation, but letting him go to Cas, just like to Batley, does show the the Bulls are open to anything which will hopefully benefit his career. If he turns on the sort of performances which make Cas want to keep him then maybe we'll be open to offers, because, as we all know, you can't make anyone come back who doesn't want to, other than in a purely legalistic way.

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:38 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

Don't forget he's under contract until the end of 2020.

I'm not saying that is the 'be all and end all' of the situation, but letting him go to Cas, just like to Batley, does show the the Bulls are open to anything which will hopefully benefit his career. If he turns on the sort of performances which make Cas want to keep him then maybe we'll be open to offers, because, as we all know, you can't make anyone come back who doesn't want to, other than in a purely legalistic way.

Or he may have a clause in there should a Super League / Full Time club come calling.

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:43 pm  

HamsterChops wrote:

Or he may have a clause in there should a Super League / Full Time club come calling.

Exactly, contracts mean nothing in the lower leagues. Hell they barely mean anything even in SL.

[Frosties.]

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:24 pm  

Or maybe clearing the deck for an out of favour Leeds player?

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:36 pm  

Frosties. wrote:

Or maybe clearing the deck for an out of favour Leeds player?

If it’s Dwyer as rumoured on Twitter that would be pretty disappointing (and unnecessary)

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:37 pm  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

If it’s Dwyer as rumoured on Twitter that would be pretty disappointing (and unnecessary)

Well put it this way, he's not out of favour for rugby reasons.

I'd don't know if he's headed our way or not but if he is then JK
Has a bit of work on his hands to straighten him out

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:03 am  

MicktheGled wrote:

To quote Andrew Chalmers yeserday: "Bradford Bulls are not a selling club."

Were certainly are not.

We're a spend too much, go bust and give them away for free club.

Re: Reiss Butterworth : Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:47 am  

Isn't this just a case of a young lad not getting a game for us as he is 4th choice and sending him out for much needed experience. We get a big prop who will get game time and I think we do need a new face up front.
There is a lot of guessing now going on and conspiracies. He is our player for another few years and when he comes back from his loan we will hopefully be in the championship and signing better players so things may look better for him. I don't see him getting many games at Cas as they strive to win the league. Will they really put him in ahead of what they already have.
Kear will only keep him if he rates him which is what we all must remember. I we rate Kear highly then we must also trust him and his judgement. Reiss will only leave if Kear wants him to - so I am not worrying too much about it as we have bigger fish to catch in the next couple of months.