Re: New Boss : Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:01 pm  

hatty wrote:

We've just ended one Wigan old boys club I'd hate for us to start another.

Do you think Edwards would create a boys club mentality like Wane has..

Fight club maybe..If you're not giving 110% under Edwards, your gone!!

Re: New Boss : Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:52 pm  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

So even if Edwards is the best man for the job, or Lam, Furner or Barrett, they should all be avoided because they have a history with Wigan? I just don’t get that at all.

Nope not at all as none of those that you mention with exception of Edwards are wiganers. I just don’t want to get a manager who can only relate to a Wigan accent and who tries to fill the team full of wiganers because it’s what Wigan wants. I want to watch the best talent that’s available, if I want to watch a team full of wiganers I’ll go to watch Pats, Bridge or Jude’s.
That’s not being disrespectful to local lads but not everyone will turn into a Shaun Edwards, Andy Gregory or Andy Farrell. We need a mix of local, national and international players and sadly I don’t think Edwards is the man to do that IMO

Re: New Boss : Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:11 pm  

hatty wrote:

Nope not at all as none of those that you mention with exception of Edwards are wiganers. I just don’t want to get a manager who can only relate to a Wigan accent and who tries to fill the team full of wiganers because it’s what Wigan wants. I want to watch the best talent that’s available, if I want to watch a team full of wiganers I’ll go to watch Pats, Bridge or Jude’s.
That’s not being disrespectful to local lads but not everyone will turn into a Shaun Edwards, Andy Gregory or Andy Farrell. We need a mix of local, national and international players and sadly I don’t think Edwards is the man to do that IMO

I don’t understand why you think Edwards would try to get a team filled with local lads? The club has proven that whilst we depend heavily on local talent, they’ll bring in players who are deemed right for the club. Clubb, Sarginson, Flower, Hardaker, McIllorum, Bateman, Leuluai, Hamlin, Gelling, FPN to name just a few.

Salary cap dictates that we need to develop players as much as possible and support them with good signings from elsewhere. The days of Brett Kenny and Gene Miles are long gone and we can’t possibly compete for the world’s best players any more.

I believe wholeheartedly that Edwards would be instrumental in changing the way we play for the better and would have us competing for honest consistently.

Re: New Boss : Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:28 pm  

hatty wrote:

Nope not at all as none of those that you mention with exception of Edwards are wiganers. I just don’t want to get a manager who can only relate to a Wigan accent and who tries to fill the team full of wiganers because it’s what Wigan wants. I want to watch the best talent that’s available, if I want to watch a team full of wiganers I’ll go to watch Pats, Bridge or Jude’s.
That’s not being disrespectful to local lads but not everyone will turn into a Shaun Edwards, Andy Gregory or Andy Farrell. We need a mix of local, national and international players and sadly I don’t think Edwards is the man to do that IMO

What possible evidence exists to even remotely indicate that would happen?

Seriously. I’m confused as to why that would be even mentioned by you.

Talk about just conjuring an opinion based on nothing other than a preconceived notion.

Re: New Boss : Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:47 pm  

tugglesf78 wrote:

What possible evidence exists to even remotely indicate that would happen?

Seriously. I’m confused as to why that would be even mentioned by you.

Talk about just conjuring an opinion based on nothing other than a preconceived notion.

Not just me then?

[DaveO]

Re: New Boss : Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:27 am  

My choice would be Edwards but not at the cost of an interim coach. My reasons for wanting him?
I was lucky enough to watch Edwards make his debut and watched his entire career. I’ve yet to see a player with a better rugby brain than Edwards and I’m 100% sure he’ll have kept up with the game and still watches it when he can. He’s been out of the game but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t understand it.
He went to RU and won 3 x premierships. He went to Wales RU and was described as the biggest ever loss to English rugby. His player management is renowned as first class and he’s a Wigan fan. What more could we ask for? If he’s supported by people like Lockers, there will be sufficient continuity but with an entirely new approach and I’d be intrigued to see how it went. One things for sure, his appointment would certainly put bums on seats and bring fans back through the turnstiles.

The above was the second post in the thread. Got it in one and yet the thread has accrued five more pages at the time I post this. Should have been the shortest thread in history

Re: New Boss : Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:54 am  

tugglesf78 wrote:

What possible evidence exists to even remotely indicate that would happen?

Seriously. I’m confused as to why that would be even mentioned by you.

Talk about just conjuring an opinion based on nothing other than a preconceived notion.

No evidence just my opinion, after all this is a forum where people can express their views isn’t it?

Re: New Boss : Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:16 am  

DaveO wrote:

The above was the second post in the thread. Got it in one and yet the thread has accrued five more pages at the time I post this. Should have been the shortest thread in history

Well thanks for the compliment DaveO! I do believe that was in fact my post!

Re: New Boss : Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:12 am  

hatty wrote:

No evidence just my opinion, after all this is a forum where people can express their views isn’t it?

100%

However in order to form an opinion you at least have a duty to base that opinion on somthing tangible. If possible it would also be good if you could share that thought process with the rest us us. In turn we can then debate or agree on why such a thing has been said.

Without any form of reasoning the thing you are saying is pretty worthless.

So

Please tell us why, in your opinion, would Edwards create a jobs for the boys environment?

Re: New Boss : Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:58 am  

Edwards over Lam for me. I don't know if Lam has changed since his time at Wigan as a player, but he was VERY much jack the lad. I know of lots of stories involving Lammy, he very much embraced the fun side of being a RL name in a small town. Was a bit of a wild man.