Re: Support play : Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:29 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

I'm hardly Wane's biggest fan, but even I can see it would be madness to get rid of him when we are 2nd in the league. No comparison to Cunningham at all

And we've scored the most tries in super league despite playing fewer games than all but Cas i think.

I find the degree to which Wane is criticised baffling. You have to be willingly blind to the positives to think they are outweighed by our attack being different to Saints or wanting our props to fall over. Especially given the disruption in the Saints game.

Re: Support play : Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:59 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

I'm hardly Wane's biggest fan, but even I can see it would be madness to get rid of him when we are 2nd in the league. No comparison to Cunningham at all

Don’t get me wrong I’m not comparing us now to Saints under Cunningham and where they were. Two different situations. What I was saying is when it comes to the club, we shouldn’t and can’t afford to put sentiment first. The interests of the club come before any individual, despite what they may have done for it achieved at the club.

Re: Support play : Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:56 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

Don’t get me wrong I’m not comparing us now to Saints under Cunningham and where they were. Two different situations. What I was saying is when it comes to the club, we shouldn’t and can’t afford to put sentiment first. The interests of the club come before any individual, despite what they may have done for it achieved at the club.

True. And the same goes for the fans. I'm sure you think your ideas are in the best interests of the club but there's currently nothing to support that theory. SW has numerous trophies in the bank and currently has us sat nicely in the table playing some of the best rugby we've seen at Wigan in quite some time.

Just out of interest what makes you think your suggestion has any more validity than SW's assertion that his way is correct;something he can back up, not only with years of consistently competing for and winning trophies, but with how things are progressing this year too?

Re: Support play : Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:26 am  

I was as scathing as anybody about Wanes crazy comments about Hamlins leg drive the other day but nobody can question how we’re playing and call it boring at the minute (it was even less boring with Hamlin not surrendering in tackles but that debates been done). We’re the top try scorers in the league having played one less game then the Superleague, Challenge Cup and Football World Cup champions of 2018 in St Helens and some of the play has been a joy to watch.

It’s amazing what having competition for places can do.

Re: Support play : Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:27 pm  

Phuzzy wrote:

True. And the same goes for the fans. I'm sure you think your ideas are in the best interests of the club but there's currently nothing to support that theory. SW has numerous trophies in the bank and currently has us sat nicely in the table playing some of the best rugby we've seen at Wigan in quite some time.

Just out of interest what makes you think your suggestion has any more validity than SW's assertion that his way is correct;something he can back up, not only with years of consistently competing for and winning trophies, but with how things are progressing this year too?

In short - nothing. That’s why I’m posting on a forum rather than being the Head Coach or whatever.

Things are progressing well, it’s simply unfathomable to suggest otherwise however I don’t think we will remain as contenders. Against teams considered as the top teams our performances were poor, albeit the Warrington game wasn’t long after landing back from the Australia venture. We looked awesome v Hull KR but it counts for nothing if we can’t play to that standard against Saints/Leeds/Warrington/Hull.

IMHO top teams have figured out our game plan and counter act it well. We look slow and lethargic against them and don’t look like scoring. Our defence against Saints & Warrington ensured the result wasn’t a run away. Considering the teams we’ve played I’m not getting carried away with this top try scorer business, it’s a good achievement thus far granted but the season isn’t won now. It’s won in October and that result on Monday papered over the obvious cracks for me.

I’ll give Wane his due, he has done well to win what he has and in the circumstances he has. I keep harping back to it but not replacing Harris & Deacon properly is coming back to bite us on the backside. I’m not convinced whatsoever that Wane’s attacking strategy is the way forward and I find his bash ‘em up strategy to be poor.

I’m happy at seasons end if we win the league or make the Grand Final to retract all doubts. I’m not sat here wanting Wane and Wigan to fail, what I am saying is that at seasons end IL needs to take stock and decide on what is best for the club removing all sentiment that will undoubtedly and understandably remain for Wane.

Re: Support play : Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:10 pm  

To be fair, SW did state that we had modified our attacking structures to play Saints but lost the key player, Sam, just before the match and Escare hadn't trained in the FB role due to illness so all the hard work was lost. Will be interesting to watch the return match.

Re: Support play : Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:51 pm  

[quote="100% Warrior"]. We looked awesome v Hull KR but it counts for nothing if we can’t play to that standard against Saints/Leeds/Warrington/Hull.

I’m fairly certain we beat Hull in Wollongong? The wire result could be expected after the flight 4 days earlier and we lost by 3 points to Saints after serious disruption. We played very well against Saints, just got beat by the league leaders at their home! I can live with that and am confident from what I’ve seen that we don’t need to fear anybody in this league. Leeds and Cas will be 2 very good tests of where we are in terms of progress.