FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - All quiet on the restructure.
atomic 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star6896
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 22 20159 years262nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
24th Apr 24 18:3922nd Feb 24 20:28LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Image

All quiet on the restructure. : Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:17 am  
Do you think anything will change? Lots of talk about SL1 and SL2 and leaving the rest to fend for themselves.

How could you select which club should be in which division? Possibly a return to licensing would resolve that, setting some criteria appropriate for each division.

That set criteria could mean some current SL Clubs being replaced by Championship Clubs. Or Championship Clubs not being allowed promotion as they don’t meet the criteria of the division above them. Something we have seen before.

If the structure is to change, I don’t see any other way than using licensing again for selection purposes. Although I also don’t see SL chairmen voting against their own clubs interest.

So what will happen? If anything.
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain485No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 16 20159 years296th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd Apr 22 07:4828th Mar 22 08:23LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: All quiet on the restructure. : Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:53 pm  
atomic wrote:
Do you think anything will change? Lots of talk about SL1 and SL2 and leaving the rest to fend for themselves.

How could you select which club should be in which division? Possibly a return to licensing would resolve that, setting some criteria appropriate for each division.

That set criteria could mean some current SL Clubs being replaced by Championship Clubs. Or Championship Clubs not being allowed promotion as they don’t meet the criteria of the division above them. Something we have seen before.

If the structure is to change, I don’t see any other way than using licensing again for selection purposes. Although I also don’t see SL chairmen voting against their own clubs interest.

So what will happen? If anything.


It has been nearly a year since It was first suggested by Roger Draper, for him to go public it must have been spoken about for 6 mths prior to that, I honestly do not think a decision has yet been reached, tgat may be in-fighting by the SL bosses - dont forget Wigan or Hull or Saints vote carries no more weight than Widnes or Salford or Hull KR in this one club one vote system, it could be Sky who don't want change at the moment, it could be the RFL concerned for clubs below SL level, I do not think we will see any change till 2021 at least when the new TV contract kicks in, WHATEVER FORM THAT TAKES, who knows it may be substantially less than we have at present?
atomic 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star6896
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 22 20159 years262nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
24th Apr 24 18:3922nd Feb 24 20:28LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Image

Re: All quiet on the restructure. : Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:08 am  
Harry Stottle wrote:
It has been nearly a year since It was first suggested by Roger Draper, for him to go public it must have been spoken about for 6 mths prior to that, I honestly do not think a decision has yet been reached, tgat may be in-fighting by the SL bosses - dont forget Wigan or Hull or Saints vote carries no more weight than Widnes or Salford or Hull KR in this one club one vote system, it could be Sky who don't want change at the moment, it could be the RFL concerned for clubs below SL level, I do not think we will see any change till 2021 at least when the new TV contract kicks in, WHATEVER FORM THAT TAKES, who knows it may be substantially less than we have at present?


Harry, Sky don't have control of structures. They have control over what games they show and the amount of games they show. Its not up to them if things are to change. By the way, they owe a game back already.

Indeed, one club one vote, with most outcomes 7-5 in favour of the top five. The TV money could be more substantial, as there would be less clubs to support.

Not seeing changes until 2021,wont stop the negotiations now in progress.

You don't mention licensing, other than nothing will change until 2021. Will that time frame ensure existing SL Clubs not meeting that criteria now, are being given the option to make it so, or suffer the consequences.

In other words, the clubs not meeting the criteria now have three years to put it right.
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain485No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 16 20159 years296th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd Apr 22 07:4828th Mar 22 08:23LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: All quiet on the restructure. : Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:16 am  
atomic wrote:
Harry, Sky don't have control of structures. They have control over what games they show and the amount of games they show. Its not up to them if things are to change. By the way, they owe a game back already.

Indeed, one club one vote, with most outcomes 7-5 in favour of the top five. The TV money could be more substantial, as there would be less clubs to support.

Not seeing changes until 2021,wont stop the negotiations now in progress.

You don't mention licensing, other than nothing will change until 2021. Will that time frame ensure existing SL Clubs not meeting that criteria now, are being given the option to make it so, or suffer the consequences.

In other words, the clubs not meeting the criteria now have three years to put it right.


Hi Atomic, firstly Sky have stated that they are in favour of the jeapordy aspect that is brought about with the Middle 8's and if they are insistent on the format maintaing it isn't that tantamount to saying we are staying with the 3 x 8's structure, has you state negotiations could be ongoing in fact they could have already commenced re the next TV deal, whichever way we view it SKY untill any other broadcast company come along with any where near or better than the present deal SKY still hold all the ACES. On that scenario if no other broadcaster comes forward I dont expect an increased offer forthcoming!
Secondly, you say in any voting situation the majority vote would favour what the top 5 desire, those 5 I imagine would be Wigan, Saints, Warrington, Leeds and Hull, whilst I think those clubs could decide collectivley they would like to move in any number of different directions or formats, perhaps they may not suit the other clubs, by the way does Catalan who I keep hearing are guests in SL actually have a vote?
Thirdly, No I do not mention licensing, it may well come about, then again it may not get the required votes, If it does come back it will be as a "closed shop" I for one hope that never ever sees the light of day again, even if Leigh was to be one of the chosen few I would still be against it, the Championship is becoming a wonderful competitive competition could you really see that would have happened if the top division was locked out, not a chance. If it did return to licensing and we were outside of SL with no way of getting back in I would stop going, after over 50 years of supporting Leigh and I would expect I would not be on my own, and that would not only apply to Leigh it would reverse all the the good work that has gone on in the Championship in the last 3 years, otger clubs supporters i believe would follow suut.
You may well be correct again, in that working alongside my no-change till 2021 it gives those clubs who do not meet whatever criteria that has to be met for SL entry the opportunities to get up to speed, that is one scenario which would have had to have been voted on and agreed by the majority of clubs.
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain533No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 20 20159 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th Jul 18 18:3810th Mar 18 11:06LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: All quiet on the restructure. : Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:06 am  
I 've heard 2 of 10 sl divisions. As of licencing.with a 3rd tier feeder system from what is now league 1 but with mergers. And Leneghan and co running the operation. But last bit could be wrong

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: davey41, Draexnael, rocky-uk and 200 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Leigh Leopards


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
35662
5m
Corey Hall
Dr Dreadnoug
23
15m
RD 9 Hull FC A
KaeruJim
14
18m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
57570
24m
Toulouse next
Butcher
15
25m
TV games not Wire
Saddened!
2938
28m
Substitutions
no fear
3
28m
Shopping list for 2025
Roam Ranger
1106
32m
RD 8 Huddersfield Giants H
KaeruJim
156
33m
Rowley
KaeruJim
98
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
43s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
35662
47s
Ed barber
Faxlore
6
1m
Corey Hall
Dr Dreadnoug
23
1m
Josh Drinkwater
Dannyboywt1
20
1m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
1148
1m
Widnes H
Rafa9
12
1m
Todays match v Leigh
rubber ducki
67
1m
Recruitment rumours and links
Wires71
2382
2m
Squad for Salford
rubber ducki
6
3m
Rowley
KaeruJim
98
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
CATALANS KICK OFF TIME 25TH MAY
Foti with th
1
TODAY
Injury Tracker
Bull Mania
2
TODAY
Ed barber
Faxlore
6
TODAY
Substitutions
no fear
3
TODAY
Saints Snatch Win With Lomax Drop Goal
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Sam Eseh
CM Punk
2
TODAY
RD 9 Hull FC A
KaeruJim
14
TODAY
Squad for Salford
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Info
LancashireRe
7
TODAY
Hunslet RLFC
FIL
2
TODAY
Toulouse next
Butcher
15
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Dragons
LeythIg
5
TODAY
Paul Rowley wont be taking the Hull FC job
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
SWINTON LIONS
Miserybusine
10
TODAY
swinton
Brew
2
TODAY
KR A
Zig
19
TODAY
Vale Terry Hill
Sadfish
1
TODAY
George King
satanicmills
5
TODAY
Widnes H
Rafa9
12
TODAY
French championship final
RobRiches
7
TODAY
Josh Drinkwater
Dannyboywt1
20
TODAY
Dons v Dewsbury Sunday 28/4/24 3pm
Jemmo
5
TODAY
Corey Hall
Dr Dreadnoug
23
TODAY
Darnell McIntosh to Leigh
Septimius Se
25
TODAY
80 minutes
Start@1873
9
TODAY
Wigan academy products
pk
17
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Salford Away
MorePlaymake
19
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Saints Snatch Win With Lomax D..
233
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong F..
1061
Catalans Dragons Destroy Hull ..
782
Warrington Wolves Break Leigh ..
901
Huddersfield Giants Fight Back..
1022
France v England International..
1710
Warrington Stun St Helens In C..
2342
2024 Challenge Cup Semi-Finals..
2090
Wigan Warriors Demolish Woeful..
2049
Hull KR Eliminate the Cup Hold..
2091
Bradford Bulls Come From Behin..
2488
Bradford Bulls Beat Feathersto..
3002
Giants Thrash FC Again For Top..
2986
Warrington Brush Aside The Rhi..
2615
Wigan Coast to Victory over Le..
2490
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.58M +12,842 ↑27580,03414,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
National Rugby League 2024-R8
 FT
Hover 
Manly
32-18
Parramatta
Mens Super League XXVIII-R9
20:00
Castleford
v
LondonB
20:00
Hull KR
v
Wigan
20:00
Leigh
v
Catalans
 TOMORROW
National Rugby League 2024-R8
08:30
Wests
v
Brisbane
10:35
NQL Cowboys
v
Penrith
Womens Super League 2024-R2
12:00
LeedsW
v
Wire W
14:00
BarrowW
v
York V
Mens Super League XXVIII-R9
15:00
Salford
v
Warrington
Championship 2024-R6
18:00
Wakefield
v
Toulouse
 Sun 28th Apr
National Rugby League 2024-R8
05:00
Dolphins
v
Newcastle
07:05
Canberra
v
Cronulla
Womens Super League 2024-R2
12:00
WiganW
v
FeatherstoneW
League One 2024-R6
13:00
Workington
v
Cornwall
14:00
Midlands
v
Oldham
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Fri 26th Apr
SL
20:00
Castleford-LondonB
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Wigan
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 27th Apr
SL
15:00
Salford-Warrington
Sun 28th Apr
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Leeds
Sat 18th May
CC2024
13:15
Hull KR-Wigan
WOMCC2024
11:15
St.HelensW-York V
Sun 19th May
CC2024
15:15
Huddersfield-Warrington
WOMCC2024
12:30
WiganW-LeedsW
Sat 29th Jun
MINT2024
17:00
France M-England M
WINT2024
14:30
FRANCE W-ENGLAND W
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:00
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Fri 26th Apr
NRL
LIVE
Manly32-18Parramatta
Thu 25th Apr
SL 9 St.Helens13-12Huddersfield
NRL 8 NZ Warriors24-27Gold Coast
NRL 8 St.George18-60Sydney
NRL 8 Melbourne54-20Souths
Sun 21st Apr
NRL 7 Canterbury36-12Newcastle
NRL 7 Cronulla42-6NQL Cowboys
CH 5 Barrow6-38Doncaster
CH 5 Batley14-34Wakefield
CH 5 Featherstone32-24Widnes
CH 5 Halifax0-46Sheffield
CH 5 Swinton50-22Dewsbury
CH 5 York25-10Bradford
L1 5 Crusaders36-37Rochdale
L1 5 Cornwall6-72Midlands
L1 5 Hunslet18-30Workington
L1 5 Newcastle6-82Keighley
WSL2024 1 Wire W34-28FeatherstoneW
WSL2024 1 York V20-16St.HelensW
Sat 20th Apr
SL 8 Warrington16-14Leigh
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
St.Helens 9 209 70 139 14
Catalans 8 208 92 116 14
Wigan 7 224 92 132 12
Warrington 8 230 112 118 12
Hull KR 8 188 119 69 10
Huddersfield 9 218 163 55 10
 
Salford 8 163 158 5 10
Leeds 8 140 152 -12 8
Leigh 7 130 142 -12 2
Castleford 8 112 264 -152 2
Hull FC 8 86 310 -224 2
LondonB 8 74 308 -234 0
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 5 188 50 138 10
Sheffield 5 160 62 98 10
Widnes 5 160 70 90 8
Featherstone 5 128 92 36 6
Bradford 5 94 103 -9 6
Toulouse 5 108 81 27 4
 
Swinton 5 100 104 -4 4
Doncaster 5 104 140 -36 4
Barrow 5 78 139 -61 4
Halifax 5 66 135 -69 4
Whitehaven 5 73 145 -72 4
Batley 5 73 112 -39 2
Dewsbury 5 82 129 -47 2
York 5 79 131 -52 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
35662
5m
Corey Hall
Dr Dreadnoug
23
15m
RD 9 Hull FC A
KaeruJim
14
18m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
57570
24m
Toulouse next
Butcher
15
25m
TV games not Wire
Saddened!
2938
28m
Substitutions
no fear
3
28m
Shopping list for 2025
Roam Ranger
1106
32m
RD 8 Huddersfield Giants H
KaeruJim
156
33m
Rowley
KaeruJim
98
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
43s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
35662
47s
Ed barber
Faxlore
6
1m
Corey Hall
Dr Dreadnoug
23
1m
Josh Drinkwater
Dannyboywt1
20
1m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
1148
1m
Widnes H
Rafa9
12
1m
Todays match v Leigh
rubber ducki
67
1m
Recruitment rumours and links
Wires71
2382
2m
Squad for Salford
rubber ducki
6
3m
Rowley
KaeruJim
98
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
CATALANS KICK OFF TIME 25TH MAY
Foti with th
1
TODAY
Injury Tracker
Bull Mania
2
TODAY
Ed barber
Faxlore
6
TODAY
Substitutions
no fear
3
TODAY
Saints Snatch Win With Lomax Drop Goal
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Sam Eseh
CM Punk
2
TODAY
RD 9 Hull FC A
KaeruJim
14
TODAY
Squad for Salford
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Info
LancashireRe
7
TODAY
Hunslet RLFC
FIL
2
TODAY
Toulouse next
Butcher
15
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Dragons
LeythIg
5
TODAY
Paul Rowley wont be taking the Hull FC job
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
SWINTON LIONS
Miserybusine
10
TODAY
swinton
Brew
2
TODAY
KR A
Zig
19
TODAY
Vale Terry Hill
Sadfish
1
TODAY
George King
satanicmills
5
TODAY
Widnes H
Rafa9
12
TODAY
French championship final
RobRiches
7
TODAY
Josh Drinkwater
Dannyboywt1
20
TODAY
Dons v Dewsbury Sunday 28/4/24 3pm
Jemmo
5
TODAY
Corey Hall
Dr Dreadnoug
23
TODAY
Darnell McIntosh to Leigh
Septimius Se
25
TODAY
80 minutes
Start@1873
9
TODAY
Wigan academy products
pk
17
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Salford Away
MorePlaymake
19
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Saints Snatch Win With Lomax D..
233
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong F..
1061
Catalans Dragons Destroy Hull ..
782
Warrington Wolves Break Leigh ..
901
Huddersfield Giants Fight Back..
1022
France v England International..
1710
Warrington Stun St Helens In C..
2342
2024 Challenge Cup Semi-Finals..
2090
Wigan Warriors Demolish Woeful..
2049
Hull KR Eliminate the Cup Hold..
2091
Bradford Bulls Come From Behin..
2488
Bradford Bulls Beat Feathersto..
3002
Giants Thrash FC Again For Top..
2986
Warrington Brush Aside The Rhi..
2615
Wigan Coast to Victory over Le..
2490


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!