Wane hopeful for new season : Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:29 am  

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Re: Wane hopeful for new season : Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:20 am  

I think we’ll go pretty well this year despite being written off by a lot of journalists and ex players in newspapers and on the radio. I sense a real determination about the place to prove a few people wrong. The spirit at Leigh on Sunday seemed much better and something I’ve been wanting to see for ages happened, the players looked like they enjoyed themselves and enjoyed their teammates successes (The Hamlin and Shorrocks try’s in particular).

If we want it enough then a top four place will be ours. I genuinely believe there isn’t a squad with more talent in then ours with the likes of Sam Tomkins, Gildart, Burgess, Williams, Bateman, Farrell, O’Loughlin etc. We’re certainly not in a St Helens like position of 2016/17 of wanting our coach to pull something out the bag but then looking around and seeing only the likes of Roby, Walmsley and Percival as genuine top class players (that’s not to bag Saints as they’re now much improved if a little over reliant on some Barba magic I’d expect).

Re: Wane hopeful for new season : Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:19 am  

I feel optimistic.

Of course I like anyone could criticise certain areas and want improvement or a new signing or two, but that's the reality of the game, I imagine most fans have doubts about their team and at times feel their team needs a few adjustments or additional personal, but it is what it is.

We seem to have depth in the forwards, options in the spine and a good mix of experience and youth despite losing a few senior players in the offseason.

I think it's now up to Wane and the coaching staff to lead the team to success, I feel this season is particularly crucial to Wane, who I believe will be shown the door/leave if we have another poor season.

I can't wait for the new season, intrigued with how we perform, secretly with high expectations for 2018.

Re: Wane hopeful for new season : Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:36 am  

I'm hopeful rather than expectant. Having said that, I genuinely fancied us to win both domestic trophies last year after we won the WCC, and look how that turned out! The players are talented enough to win trophies, but the way so many big names underperformed last year, and our trend of picking up so many injuries, are both concerning. Competition will be fierce this year as well, 4 semi final spots between us, Cas, Hull, Leeds, Saints and Wire, and that's before you factor in any of the other teams having an unexpected big year.

Re: Wane hopeful for new season : Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:09 pm  

The one thing I will say is that if things don’t go well, I think Wane will be in for a rough ride (if we don’t have 10+ players injured at a time) because he has enough talent available to him for him to get us in the top four and competing for trophies.

There’s no excuses in this early part of the season.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Wane hopeful for new season : Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:04 pm  

Wane is under huge pressure this season and if we start poorly I don't think he will survive till the end of the season.

There are a number of issues that will need to happen/improve for the club to challenge for honours:

1. The props to play like props and lay a foundation for the backs. None of the lazy so and so shirking that plagued last season.

2. Find a halfback that can play with Williams.

3. sort out the woeful long range kicking game.

4. Hope a left centre can play right centre.

5. Actually start winning games when the captain doesn't play.

If you asked me where I think we will finish this season, I couldn't at the moment, only to say we could finish anyway between 1st and 9th. I wouldn't be surprised if we finished top and I wouldn't be surprise if we were this year's Leeds or Warrington in the middle 8s.

Re: Wane hopeful for new season : Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:40 pm  

I'm optimistic.
Good set of forwards who are capable of getting the team on the front foot.
Quality half backs with guile and pace.
Threequarters who are fast and skilfull.
Altogether a good combination.
Top four and a trophy in 2018.

Re: Wane hopeful for new season : Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:11 pm  

Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy wrote:

Wane is under huge pressure this season and if we start poorly I don't think he will survive till the end of the season.

There are a number of issues that will need to happen/improve for the club to challenge for honours:

1. The props to play like props and lay a foundation for the backs. None of the lazy so and so shirking that plagued last season.

2. Find a halfback that can play with Williams.

3. sort out the woeful long range kicking game.

4. Hope a left centre can play right centre.

5. Actually start winning games when the captain doesn't play.

If you asked me where I think we will finish this season, I couldn't at the moment, only to say we could finish anyway between 1st and 9th. I wouldn't be surprised if we finished top and I wouldn't be surprise if we were this year's Leeds or Warrington in the middle 8s.

There is absolutely zero chance of us being anywhere but top 6. Its a poor league and our players more than match any other squad in the league. I dont see why people are so negative. With 2 games to go last season we were 3rd. 2 bad results wont suddenly mean we finish bottom 4

Re: Wane hopeful for new season : Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:14 pm  

Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy wrote:

Wane is under huge pressure this season and if we start poorly I don't think he will survive till the end of the season.

There are a number of issues that will need to happen/improve for the club to challenge for honours:

1. The props to play like props and lay a foundation for the backs. None of the lazy so and so shirking that plagued last season.

2. Find a halfback that can play with Williams.

3. sort out the woeful long range kicking game.

4. Hope a left centre can play right centre.

5. Actually start winning games when the captain doesn't play.

If you asked me where I think we will finish this season, I couldn't at the moment, only to say we could finish anyway between 1st and 9th. I wouldn't be surprised if we finished top and I wouldn't be surprise if we were this year's Leeds or Warrington in the middle 8s.

1. Props 'surrender' early to find their front for a quick play the ball to catch the defence off guard for a quick attack. It's a tactic.

2. Halfbacks don't play together, one controls left side, one controls right. It's not 1985 anymore.

3. Brought in Charlie Hodgson. This happened a few months back.

4. Sarge? He's played FB and HB. His passing game should be good.

5. Agree with this one.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Wane hopeful for new season : Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:24 pm  

bazdev wrote:

There is absolutely zero chance of us being anywhere but top 6. Its a poor league and our players more than match any other squad in the league. I dont see why people are so negative. With 2 games to go last season we were 3rd. 2 bad results wont suddenly mean we finish bottom 4

Leeds where champions the season before going into the middle 8s.

Warrington got to the grand final the season before going into the middle 8s.

We actually finished 7th before the split (only 3 points above Warrington). I fail to see how being 3rd with two games to go and actually finishing 6th in the Super 8s is some kind of shield from going into the middle 8s. Like I said I wouldn't be surprised if we finished anywhere between 1st and 9th.