Re: And so it begins again... : Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:47 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

I second this. I've seen nothing in Bretherton that makes me think he's even close to being a regular first team prop at Wigan.

It’s a shame that he’s not kicked on in any way, shape or form because in his academy days I thought he had real potential.

He’s still very young for a prop but he’s missing the ingredient I think is most important in a young prop and that’s aggression. I’m not saying he needs to belt people but he should be running with aggression and really getting stuck in defensively.

Re: And so it begins again... : Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:33 pm  

Have to agree Re Bretherton he's a long way from being first team ready for me

Re: And so it begins again... : Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:22 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

It’s a shame that he’s not kicked on in any way, shape or form because in his academy days I thought he had real potential.

He’s still very young for a prop but he’s missing the ingredient I think is most important in a young prop and that’s aggression. I’m not saying he needs to belt people but he should be running with aggression and really getting stuck in defensively.

Who is the last really good prop we produced? Mossop was pretty good for a season or two I suppose but regularly injured. Can't think of one before that

Re: And so it begins again... : Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:46 am  

Grimmy wrote:

Who is the last really good prop we produced? Mossop was pretty good for a season or two I suppose but regularly injured. Can't think of one before that

We haven’t really produced a top one in decades have we. I do like Sutton and even though he’s got plenty to work on, I do feel he has as much potential as any young prop we have brought through in a number of years.

Very early days but I liked a couple of the young props on show against the Skolers. I thought Kilner off the bench looked an excellent young talent. He’s got a good frame (looked a bit like these big Aussies we saw in the WorldCup-Dave Klemmer and was it McClean) to build on and looked very aggressive.

Re: And so it begins again... : Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:08 am  

That Mon wrote:

Looks llike first couple of weeks out. Decided he wanted to carry on in World cup even though surgeon said he would lose the feeling and would have been set Lucky the ligament survived and alls well.

As this was a injury that was made worse by the player and the RFL, I take it his wage isn't being paid by the club until its recovered....

























.....thought not.

Re: And so it begins again... : Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:02 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

Who is the last really good prop we produced? Mossop was pretty good for a season or two I suppose but regularly injured. Can't think of one before that

Prescott?

Re: And so it begins again... : Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:55 pm  

Geoff wrote:

Prescott?

He had two good seasons when Maguire was in charge, and maybe he would have kicked on but for injuries, but I doubt he was ever a player the opposition talked about before the game, or close to getting an England call up. When you look at the calibre of player we have recently produced in other positions, we clearly lack at prop and hooker

FB S.Tomkins, Radlinski
W Charnley, Burgess
C Johnson, Gildart
HB Williams
P Mossop, Prescott
H McIlorum, L.Tomkins
SR Farrell, J.Tomkins
LF O'Loughlin, Farrell