Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:01 pm  

Southern Reiver wrote:

Well two fully professional clubs in a major city can’t afford an academy team each? It’s only a matter of time. FC have a history of mergers on the east coast...

oh dear!

the merged academy is down to lack of players coming through from junior level, the talent pool is getting smaller across the game, not just in hull, but we still have an academy under the COH banner, some clubs dont even have their own!

you'd be happy to risk losing nearly 20,000 fans from game? hell, why not merge widnes and saints too, same distance and time to get to each ground as it is fc and kr!

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:17 pm  

number 6 wrote:

:lol: oh dear!

the merged academy is down to lack of players coming through from junior level, the talent pool is getting smaller across the game, not just in hull, but we still have an academy under the COH banner, some clubs dont even have their own!

you'd be happy to risk losing nearly 20,000 fans from game? hell, why not merge widnes and saints too, same distance and time to get to each ground as it is fc and kr!

Oh dear, glad your concentrating on the small local point not the bigger picture, Rugby League to a tee. And isn’t the lack of juniors coming through a telling state of the game. Doesn’t matter how many fans you have if no juniors are playing the game.

And the 14 teams for 2019 are (not all with an academy):

Wigan
Warrington
Widnes
St Helens
Castleford
Leeds
Hull
KR
Leigh
Salford
Wakefield
Toronto
Leigh
Catalan

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:23 pm  

Southern Reiver wrote:

Oh dear, glad your concentrating on the small local point not the bigger picture, Rugby League to a tee. And isn’t the lack of juniors coming through a telling state of the game. Doesn’t matter how many fans you have if no juniors are playing the game.

And the 14 teams for 2019 are (not all with an academy):

Wigan
Warrington
Widnes
St Helens
Castleford
Leeds
Hull
KR
Leigh
Salford
Wakefield
Toronto
Leigh
Catalan

im actually pro expansion, as long as it is done right

any new team wanting to join from north america/france should only be allowed if they have a tv deal that contributes to the whole game, not just their club and foundations layed in place for junior develpoment

two teams that have an audience of 20,000 shouldn't be dismissed simply because of location! yet you'd rather keep at least 3 clubs who wouldnt get that many combined!

and no huddersfield???

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:39 pm  

Well Leigh in there twice, not much difference is there. Let’s hope Leigh being promoted at the end of this year bring their own TV deal. Did KR expand the TV deal?

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:44 pm  

Southern Reiver wrote:

Well Leigh in there twice, not much difference is there. Let’s hope Leigh being promoted at the end of this year bring their own TV deal. Did KR expand the TV deal?

you just being stupid or is this normal? leigh and kr fall under the SL deal with sky

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:08 pm  

number 6 wrote:

you just being stupid or is this normal? leigh and kr fall under the SL deal with sky

Stupid no not at all. Clearly you miss the point and glad you’ve pointed out the only structure that will exist in 2019 is whatever tv ask for, and not sure a local northern team provide the national image needed. But then again I’m just another person on the curve towards the exit door.

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:13 am  

Southern Reiver wrote:

Oh dear, glad your concentrating on the small local point not the bigger picture, Rugby League to a tee. And isn’t the lack of juniors coming through a telling state of the game. Doesn’t matter how many fans you have if no juniors are playing the game.

And the 14 teams for 2019 are (not all with an academy):

Wigan
Warrington
Widnes
St Helens
Castleford
Leeds
Hull
KR
Leigh
Salford
Wakefield
Toronto
Leigh
Catalan

Normally we get left out of everything so its so nice of you to think of us twice

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:23 am  

number 6 wrote:

im actually pro expansion, as long as it is done right

any new team wanting to join from north america/france should only be allowed if they have a tv deal that contributes to the whole game, not just their club and foundations layed in place for junior develpoment

two teams that have an audience of 20,000 shouldn't be dismissed simply because of location! yet you'd rather keep at least 3 clubs who wouldnt get that many combined!

and no huddersfield???

Posters on the TRL would say that is sooo royston vasey

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:53 pm  

HXSparky wrote:

£10,000 is actually 0.22% of £4.5m. So, your statement around .000000022% is 100,000,000% wrong. I get what you're saying, but on the same basis, a crowd of 10,000 would only equate to 4.4% of the required income as well.

Looked at another way, 500 additional away fans means an additional 5% revenue from spectators, or closer to 10% if you're Salford, Hudderfield, Widnes or Wakefield.

It's easy to manipulate statistics...

Actually it's 0.0022222222%.....but regardless of it it was a whole 2% or not, the point is a valid one. The income from away fans is minimal and should not be relied upon by any club.....
as for a 10k gate, 10k x 11 home games then 3 more in the 8's is just over 2 million quid at 15 quid a pop....ad that to SKY cash and you're at 4 million......add shirts, merch and booze to that and there you have your 4.5 mill........10k gates are the minimum needed to break even

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:10 pm  

Call Me God wrote:

Actually it's 0.0022222222%.....but regardless of it it was a whole 2% or not, the point is a valid one. The income from away fans is minimal and should not be relied upon by any club.....
as for a 10k gate, 10k x 11 home games then 3 more in the 8's is just over 2 million quid at 15 quid a pop....ad that to SKY cash and you're at 4 million......add shirts, merch and booze to that and there you have your 4.5 mill........10k gates are the minimum needed to break even

When Hudgell said clubs needed 10k gate to survive, the tv contract was for 90 million,im not sure 10k would be the case now,Wakefield spring to mind.