Re: Manfredi- no return in sight. : Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:14 am  

I really hope he comes back as good as he was. If all four of your wingers are fit and in form, who would be the top two? Longer term would any of them be a good bet to make it elsewhere like centre/full back?

Re: Manfredi- no return in sight. : Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:29 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

I really hope he comes back as good as he was. If all four of your wingers are fit and in form, who would be the top two? Longer term would any of them be a good bet to make it elsewhere like centre/full back?

It's debatable, but I think most would agree that, when fit and in form, Manfredi is the best of the four and Marshall is the worst.

Between Burgess and Davies - it depends what you are looking for really. I'd pick Davies because of his outstanding workrate, he makes massive metres every game which takes pressure off everyone else. Plus he has only played one season, so more likely to improve further. Burgess gets through much less work, however, he is a better finisher, has better ball skills, and is obviously far more experienced.

Burgess is the most versatile of the four, he played a bit of centre last season, and I recall him playing full back once or twice in the past. Wouldn't be too surprised to see him at centre again next season if injuries kick in as we don't really have much depth there.

Re: Manfredi- no return in sight. : Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:19 pm  

Far better news - hope it all goes well and he can make it back around that time.

Out of the four, Marshall is a way behind the other three for me. Good finisher but maybe doesn't have that physical presence which helps to make metres and defend strongly.

Davies and Manfredi are possibly quite similar - both great athletes, strong, can break a tackle and relatively quick.

Burgess gets on my nerves to be honest. Probably the most natural and skilful talent and certainly the quickest if he's fully fit. But he comes across as very arrogant - his attitude and work rate needs to improve drastically otherwise I would want Davies and Manfredi as the starting wingers.

Re: Manfredi- no return in sight. : Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:43 pm  

Our best winger when fit. Remember he was in the man of steel running after the first few months of 2016.

Burgess I think was carrying at injury last year, I expect him to improve this year.

Davies was a great find, needs to work on finishing.

Marshall great finisher, just kick defence is his issue.

Great problem to have if we have all 4 fit!

Re: Manfredi- no return in sight. : Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:04 pm  

apollosghost wrote:

Great news for him and the team, as an aside if I were Tom Davies or Liam Marshall I would be practicing goal kicking every day, the wing spots are going to get very competitive, give Sean Wane another reason to pick you.

Will all four wingers ever be fit at the same time? This is Wigan that we are talking about. I think we need a squad of 60!

Re: Manfredi- no return in sight. : Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:51 am  

MadDogg wrote:

Far better news - hope it all goes well and he can make it back around that time.

Out of the four, Marshall is a way behind the other three for me. Good finisher but maybe doesn't have that physical presence which helps to make metres and defend strongly.

Davies and Manfredi are possibly quite similar - both great athletes, strong, can break a tackle and relatively quick.

[/color[color=#FF0040]]Burgess gets on my nerves to be honest. Probably the most natural and skilful talent and certainly the quickest if he's fully fit. But he comes across as very arrogant - his attitude and work rate needs to improve drastically otherwise I would want Davies and Manfredi as the starting wingers.

This is bang on for me Dogg. I got the impression of a player last season that was collecting good wages thinking he didn't have to work hard to earn them. I know he had some injury problems last season though so he gets the benefit of the doubt and i expect at least 25% more next term. The same applies with Williams, he dragged us into a couple of games last season and his skill is there for everyone to see but there is major improvement needed on last season's performances. I would like to see a return of form to the standard he was producing when he was playing for his big contract when he played out of his skin every week.

On the Manfredi subject. He is a brilliant winger and Davies is there to stay for me. I am assuming that Sam is going into the halves and Escare is going to full back. If Escare has a poor season and Manfredi comes back fit then thats where i would put him. His power, kick returns, positional play and calmness under the high ball screams a full back to me, i don't know what you guys think but i think he is tailor made for it.

Re: Manfredi- no return in sight. : Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:13 am  

FB isn’t just about running the ball back and fielding kicks. There’s no way Manfredi would be on the same level as Tomkins or Escare as a pivot/play-making FB without years of work and a lot of our structure comes through that.

Re: Manfredi- no return in sight. : Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:24 pm  

he took to the wing ok after being a LF