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Re: Depressing.... : Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:09 pm  
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They are nowhere near being as good as us at Basketball, don't confuse the NZ breakers, a club side for the "Tall Blacks" their national team


Arguing about NZ basketball on a thread called depressing quite apt
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Re: Depressing.... : Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:18 pm  
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Arguing about NZ basketball on a thread called depressing quite apt

AND neither Australians or New Zealand are better at Cycling Athletics, Rowing Boxing, association football and several other sports. and apart from maybe cycling their not even close. but they are better than us at RL and they like to keep it that way.
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Depressing.... : Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:54 pm  
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AND neither Australians or New Zealand are better at Cycling Athletics, Rowing Boxing, association football and several other sports. and apart from maybe cycling their not even close. but they are better than us at RL and they like to keep it that way.

Hmm...
2017 World Rowing champs......Kiwis were 2nd on the Medal table whilst the conglomerate that is GB sat 8th.
2017 World Track Cycling, Kiwis got 5 medals, as did the combined forces of Wales, England, Scotland and Norn Iron.
In 2017 there are 3 world Heavyweight Champions....a Brit, a Kiwi and a loud mouthed Yank and Boxing is as bent a sport as can be.
Association football was created by the English, along with Cricket and Rugby (which we now refer to as Union)...and in the case of association football, England are indeed the better side.....whilst in Cricket, we're about to have the Ashes which sits overall as 32 wins for both sides and the last ODI World cup saw the final contested between Australia and New Zealand....and IIRC England have an Aussie Coach now.......whilst in Union, well, let's just say that the All Blacks have the last 2 world cups sewn up and lead England 32-7 with 1 draw and the Aussies lead 25-22 with also, 1 Draw.....and England currently have an Australian Coach after their implosion in 2015.
At the 2017 World Athletics Championships, the united teams of Wales, Scotland, England and Norn Iron got 2 gold medals, whilst little old NZ got 1.....if only Mo Farrah had emigrated here instead eh :lol:
The Last Basketball World Cup saw both ANZAC countries progress to the last 16.......Britain nor England, Wales, Scotland or Norn Iron even qualified.....I Golf Justin Rose was born in South Africa, but he is currently ranked higher than Jason Day who was ranked #1 at the start of the year but now hits a ball like me.....whilst in Women's golf, Lydia Ko flies the flag for little old NZ......
.....Speaking of women's sports (WORLD CHAMPIONS) , Netball (Australia) Union (New Zealand), Cricket (England) Rugby League (Australia) Basketball (Australia 3rd)..........So miles ahead in Soccer but either level or behind in most other disciplines and given the population of GB&NI compared to the ANZACS, that's pretty dismal really.....

Britain does have a handy Scottish Tennis player though....I'll give you that! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Depressing.... : Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:06 am  
rollin thunder wrote:
AND neither Australians or New Zealand are better at Cycling Athletics, Rowing Boxing, association football and several other sports. and apart from maybe cycling their not even close. but they are better than us at RL and they like to keep it that way.





hmmmm

Cycling....Australia were far & away first at this years track cycling world championships with NZ just behind GB with the same amount of medals

Rowing.....NZ second, Australia third, GB eighth

Athletics....GB Sixth Australia Eleventh

Boxing.....who knows, who cares, a sport that the third world engages in heartily to entertain the first world


Association football....hmmm last two games we're running at a game a piece, i know one thing, the atmosphere at Aussie soccer games shits on the premier league

you blokes have nothing
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Re: Depressing.... : Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:49 am  
Hmmm. GB work around the Olympic cycle becuase how well they do determines how much funding they get. Just look at the previous 2 Olympics and how many medals GB won in cycling compared to Aus and NZ. GB pretty much treat the worlds as a practise event for the Olympics.
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Depressing.... : Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:34 pm  
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Hmmm. GB work around the Olympic cycle becuase how well they do determines how much funding they get. Just look at the previous 2 Olympics and how many medals GB won in cycling compared to Aus and NZ. GB pretty much treat the worlds as a practise event for the Olympics.


Cool story that.....but it doesn't change the fact that NZ finished with as many medals as GB and Australia finished first THIS YEAR and the claim was that GB were better than the ANZACS which they aren't...at a great many sports.
POPULATIONS 65,000,000 + or 28,800,000......and lest we forget who invented many of the team sports that your so :adequate" at now
Cricket Tests (3rd and we're coming into our summer now), ODI (below Australia) 20/20 (below NZ), Union (below NZ), League (below both ANZACS) Basketball (below both ANZACS) Field Hockey (below Australia), Association Football (12th :lol: :lol: :lol: )

GB bumper stickers on cars stand got GETTING BETTER...... :wink:
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Re: Depressing.... : Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:35 pm  
GB has won the davis cup more recently than Australia
England currently hold the ashes
The winner of the tour de france is British
The formula 1 world champion is British
The UK has 8 current world boxing champions.
And I'm not even getting into the last Olympic medal table!
I think our little island does ok on a global sporting level.
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Depressing.... : Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:03 pm  
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I think our little island does ok on a global sporting level.

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I think our little island does ok on a global sporting level.

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Re: Depressing.... : Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:10 pm  
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_sports_championships
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2. Australia
3. New Zealand


Well, it still lists North Queensland as the WCC Winners, not Wigan, so it's an unreliable source.
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Well, it still lists North Queensland as the WCC Winners, not Wigan, so it's an unreliable source.
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Re: Depressing.... : Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:11 am  
LifeLongHKRFan wrote:
Hmmm. GB work around the Olympic cycle becuase how well they do determines how much funding they get. Just look at the previous 2 Olympics and how many medals GB won in cycling compared to Aus and NZ. GB pretty much treat the worlds as a practise event for the Olympics.

Anyone that knows anything about Cycling knows this is fact and not a cool story. Team GB cycling is all about peaking for the Olympics, because that's the be all and end all for those athletes and also has been mentioned decides the amount of funding. To push the point further look at how many medals GB Cyclists won in the Olympics last year 12 (6 gold) to Aus 2 mefals, just a bronze and a silver.
The Olympic medal table from last year speaks volumes, GB finished 2nd to the US with 67 medals (27 Gold ) to Aus' 29 medals (8 gold).
I remember the Olympics before that when Yorkshire alone won more Medals than Aus.

Just to add to the post by Moe syslak. In the Cricket Ashes, England have won 5 out of the last 7 series. A British bloke has also won 5 out of the last 6 Tour de France. Also the Uk has had the most F1 winners of any country at 17, 5 more than the next.

Got to :) at the huge list up there, some serious cherrry picking going on. Some of the sports it's about what's happened this year, like Cycling & Rowing, some are historical records like in RU ( no mention of last years whitewash England put on Aus in their own back yard) & Cricket. The boxing for some reason is just about HW's, not the other weight classes & all the other World Champions GB has got.

Anyway how did this sport dick measuring contest even get started. :lol:
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