Re: Would you pick Tomkins or Escare at full back for 2018? : Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:40 pm  

RichieS wrote:

Going to some annoyed folk on here come new kit/squad numbers time...

1 Sam T, 6 Williams, 7 Tommy L and 9 Micky Mc

There will be no wholesale changes...

I doubt anyone realistically expects any (hopes maybe...) - Wane is nothing if not consistent and will stick with the same players in the same positions regardless of results and performances.

Re: Would you pick Tomkins or Escare at full back for 2018? : Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:37 am  

True that. We can talk all we want about who we want in certain positions but ultimately I think we all know it'll be Tomkins at fullback and Leuluai in the halves. I've noticed Phil Wilkinson mention Escare as a bench option on a few occasions as though he's been dropped a hint. I sense we may see him coming on in games with a reshuffle of Tomkins in to the halves and Tommy in to hooker.

All we can hope is Sam and the rest of the lads in now get through pre season ok and the World Cup lads come back in one piece. If they do then hopefully we'll be able to build some momentum.

Re: Would you pick Tomkins or Escare at full back for 2018? : Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:04 am  

Does anyone remember the 2013 Challenge Cup game at HKR. Wigan were really struggling after Rovers decided to "mix it" and Paterson took Blake Green out of the game with a late tackle.

After about 30 minutes Wane moved Sam Tomkins into the half backs and he tore Rovers apart. I think he score three or four tries to turn the game into a comfortable Wigan victory.

I hope that's still in his memory bank.

Re: Would you pick Tomkins or Escare at full back for 2018? : Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:24 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Does anyone remember the 2013 Challenge Cup game at HKR. Wigan were really struggling after Rovers decided to "mix it" and Paterson took Blake Green out of the game with a late tackle.

After about 30 minutes Wane moved Sam Tomkins into the half backs and he tore Rovers apart. I think he score three or four tries to turn the game into a comfortable Wigan victory.

I hope that's still in his memory bank.

I remember that quite well. Tomkins was outstanding in the halves that day. I genuinely can’t see a reason not to have Escare at the back and Tomkins back in the halves, IMHO it’ll be utterly ludicrous to have it any other way.

Re: Would you pick Tomkins or Escare at full back for 2018? : Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:06 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

I remember that quite well. Tomkins was outstanding in the halves that day. I genuinely can’t see a reason not to have Escare at the back and Tomkins back in the halves, IMHO it’ll be utterly ludicrous to have it any other way.

Shaun Wane will be the reason why you won't see this happen especially if he knows its the fans that are wanting it.

Re: Would you pick Tomkins or Escare at full back for 2018? : Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:05 pm  

hatty wrote:

Shaun Wane will be the reason why you won't see this happen especially if he knows its the fans that are wanting it.

He did it back in 2013, why would he not want to at least give it a try next year?

Re: Would you pick Tomkins or Escare at full back for 2018? : Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:52 am  

He'll probably have to try it in pre season with Leuluai and McIlorum away (and not joining up with the squad until late doors) so all we can hope is that it works and forces his hand.

Re: Would you pick Tomkins or Escare at full back for 2018? : Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:45 am  

If we go along the lines of giving a short number out based on how they perform, give Davies and Gelling squad numbers 8 & 10 respectively with our props being given the warriors fans shirt, seeing as they do little else when on the field.

We have too many players not performing and put it all down to Wane and his drab and somewhat odd game plan. Have props who don't take the ball in, wingers who do the props job, and 7 and 9 who offer no creativity at all, but hey they can put shot in so they'll do for Wane.

Re: Would you pick Tomkins or Escare at full back for 2018? : Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:13 am  

ChrisA wrote:

We have too many players not performing and put it all down to Wane and his drab and somewhat odd game plan. Have props who don't take the ball in, wingers who do the props job, and 7 and 9 who offer no creativity at all, but hey they can put shot in so they'll do for Wane.

Drab it may be but it is no different from the majority of NRL teams. Why is that odd?

Re: Would you pick Tomkins or Escare at full back for 2018? : Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:00 pm  

Aboveusonlypie wrote:

Drab it may be but it is no different from the majority of NRL teams. Why is that odd?

And four of England's to five metre makers are Jermaine McGillvary, Ryan Hall, John Bateman and Kallum Watkins