Re: The Attack : Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:56 am  

We need to stop trying to throw it around like the harlem globetrotters and drive it in more, too many handling errors and daft offloads last few games.

Re: The Attack : Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:50 pm  

the cal train wrote:

We need to stop trying to throw it around like the harlem globetrotters and drive it in more, too many handling errors and daft offloads last few games.

It's a balance isn't it? People want entertaining, error-free, consistent winning rugby. Otherwise known as the moon on a stick. Cas are the only team to deliver close to this but fell at their 2nd play-off game hurdle in one of only 2 competitions.

Re: The Attack : Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:17 pm  

Armavinit wrote:

Sneyd will play if fit. Tried to poke his head through the line a few times last night, like the keyboard warriors told him to, last week, and got clobberd heavily once. They're just lulling everyone else into a false sense of security.

What is the purpose of this post?
Makes no sense.
Fancy a rugby player getting clobbered.
Sneyd very rarely takes a tackle anyway and again rarely takes on the line.
Hardly keyboard warrior stuff is it just because it does not compute with your way of thinking.
This thread is about attack which you think a scrum half would be integral too.

Re: The Attack : Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:43 pm  

Totally agree with Bomnbed Out - how many sets of six do you see us have and the only involvement is a kick on the final play. He's a scrum half for gods sake, should be involved far more.
Even the young kid at Saints, Richardson was heavily involved whenever Saints had the ball against us. He has to do more, it's as simple as that.

I think our best rugby is when we just throw it about, like the last 15 minutes at Leeds, when we come away from the structures because more people are trying to create and thats where our biggest problem is. We don't have enough creators. Washy looks more comfortable on the ball than sneyd at times.

Re: The Attack : Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:46 pm  

don't think you can blame sneyd,the whole team is going through a bad patch.even Houghton has been sub standard.

Re: The Attack : Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:20 am  

fosdyke99 wrote:

don't think you can blame sneyd,the whole team is going through a bad patch.even Houghton has been sub standard.

The whole team has been poor but Sneyd is also very culpable.
His inability to take on the line, his catch and pass style of play, the way he stands back to do this and last play kicks make us a very easy to read and predictable team.

As this thread is about attack that's what your halves are there to instigate and control.
Kelly has the ball you get excitement and uncertainty. Sneyd gets the ball you know he's just going to pass.
I personally think when all are fit Connor and Kelly should be our pairing.
As we've not had a settled scrum half for years I think some people regard Sneyd as the new messiah and are very protective. He's steady away if nothing else but not the cheeky chappie style of scrum half I'd have liked to have seen.

Re: The Attack : Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:57 am  

hes the only scrum half in hulls history to engineer a win at Wembley,something even the great peter sterling couldn't do,sneyd will do for me.just my opinion mind you.

Re: The Attack : Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:11 am  

lummy wrote:

Totally agree with Bomnbed Out - how many sets of six do you see us have and the only involvement is a kick on the final play. He's a scrum half for gods sake, should be involved far more.
Even the young kid at Saints, Richardson was heavily involved whenever Saints had the ball against us. He has to do more, it's as simple as that.

I think our best rugby is when we just throw it about, like the last 15 minutes at Leeds, when we come away from the structures because more people are trying to create and thats where our biggest problem is. We don't have enough creators. Washy looks more comfortable on the ball than sneyd at times.

Sneyd has been with us for 2.5 seasons. What make you think he will change the way he plays now? He never has been, nor will be a "take the line on" half back. Expecting him to now do this is quite frankly pie in the sky.

Very little criticism of him last season, yet he is playing the same. Is it Sneyds fault that those around him have teflon gloves on at the moment?

We havent created much as we have not exerted any decent pressure on the opposition due to our handling errors. Expecting one player to pull it out of the bag, is ridiculous.

[Chris71]

Re: The Attack : Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:56 am  

Mild mannered Janitor wrote:

Very little criticism of him last season, yet he is playing the same. Is it Sneyds fault that those around him have teflon gloves on at the moment?

We havent created much as we have not exerted any decent pressure on the opposition due to our handling errors. Expecting one player to pull it out of the bag, is ridiculous.

It isn't Sneyds fault those around him are wearing teflon gloves I'll agree but he is also culpable of that himself. I also don't believe he is playing the same as last year either. Last year he was more consistent in going to the line before passing or putting a short kick in, this season he seems a lot less inclined to engage the opposing defence and pass without the opposition defence being anywhere near. We all know he isn't a running halfback but as a halfback he has to at least engage the defence otherwise we will create nothing in attack or do we just rely on kicks?

I am not expecting one player to pull it out the bag but I do expect an experienced halfback of Sneyds ability at the very least to engage the oppositions defence.

Re: The Attack : Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:09 am  

Chris71 wrote:

It isn't Sneyds fault those around him are wearing teflon gloves I'll agree but he is also culpable of that himself. I also don't believe he is playing the same as last year either. Last year he was more consistent in going to the line before passing or putting a short kick in, this season he seems a lot less inclined to engage the opposing defence and pass without the opposition defence being anywhere near. We all know he isn't a running halfback but as a halfback he has to at least engage the defence otherwise we will create nothing in attack or do we just rely on kicks?
I am not expecting one player to pull it out the bag but I do expect an experienced halfback of Sneyds ability at the very least to engage the oppositions defence.

Exactly my thoughts. I don't really want Sneyd to take the line on, but I want him to engage defenders. Currently, he is passing 5 yards away from the defenders, they don't need to commit to engage Sneyd, so concentrate on his runners, which means that we are not creating gaps or uncertainty.