Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:35 am  

Glad to see not everybody is mistaking cause and effect when it comes to Leeds winning from 5th last year. BM was spot on when he argued that if anything it ought to give everyone more hope. If all 8 teams really give it their all in the Play Offs, the crowds would start to come back IMO.

Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:10 pm  

I reckon we should only lose one game from the league run-in, that being away at Catalans. All the others we should expect to come away with 2pts from, which would leave us on 36 points.

The only game I'd expect Catalans to drop is away at Hull, which would finish them on 40 points.

I'd bet on Wigan dropping the games against Wire & St helens, leaving them on 42 points,

I'd expect Saints to drop the games away at Catalans & home to Wire, leaving them on 36 points.

Lastly, I'd expect Warrington to win all their games till season end, which would leave them on 43 points.

So the top of the table would look like

1. Warrington 43pts
2. Wigan 42pts
3. Catalans 40pts
4. Leeds/St Helens 36pts
5. Leeds/St Helens 36pts
6. Hull FC 34pts
7. Bradford 29pts
8. Huddersfield 26pts
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9. Hull KR 25pts

I also reckon that our loss in France will be substantial, and that Saints will be tight. So I'm placing them ahead of us on PD, so we'd finish 5th, again.

Playoffs-Round 1

Warrington v Saints, Warrington Win
Wigan v Catalans, Catalans Win
Leeds v Huddersfield, Leeds Win
Hull FC v Bradford, Bradford Win

Round 2

Saints v Leeds, Saints win
Catalans v Hull FC, Catalans win

Round 3

Warrington v Catalans, Catalans Win
Wigan v St Helens, Wigan Win

Grand Final

Wigan beat Catalans.

Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:24 pm  

Catalans won't make the GF imo it willbe between either Leeds ,Wigan ,ST's and Wire.

[Wheels]

Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:44 pm  

Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan wrote:

I reckon we should only lose one game from the league run-in, that being away at Catalans. All the others we should expect to come away with 2pts from, which would leave us on 36 points.

The only game I'd expect Catalans to drop is away at Hull, which would finish them on 40 points.

I'd bet on Wigan dropping the games against Wire & St helens, leaving them on 42 points,

I'd expect Saints to drop the games away at Catalans & home to Wire, leaving them on 36 points.

Lastly, I'd expect Warrington to win all their games till season end, which would leave them on 43 points.

So the top of the table would look like

1. Warrington 43pts
2. Wigan 42pts
3. Catalans 40pts
4. Leeds/St Helens 36pts
5. Leeds/St Helens 36pts
6. Hull FC 34pts
7. Bradford 29pts
8. Huddersfield 26pts
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9. Hull KR 25pts

I also reckon that our loss in France will be substantial, and that Saints will be tight. So I'm placing them ahead of us on PD, so we'd finish 5th, again.

Playoffs-Round 1

Warrington v Saints, Warrington Win
Wigan v Catalans, Catalans Win
Leeds v Huddersfield, Leeds Win
Hull FC v Bradford, Bradford Win

Round 2

Saints v Leeds, Saints win
Catalans v Hull FC, Catalans win

Round 3

Warrington v Catalans, Catalans Win
Wigan v St Helens, Wigan Win

Grand Final

Wigan beat Catalans.

Bradford are getting away without a points deduction?

You do realise that this post is completely pointless dont you? Just checking...

Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:48 pm  

Wheels wrote:

You do realise that this post is completely pointless dont you? Just checking...

I think that's his speciality isn't it?

Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:48 pm  

Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan wrote:

I reckon we should only lose one game from the league run-in, that being away at Catalans. All the others we should expect to come away with 2pts from, which would leave us on 36 points.

The only game I'd expect Catalans to drop is away at Hull, which would finish them on 40 points.

I'd bet on Wigan dropping the games against Wire & St helens, leaving them on 42 points,

I'd expect Saints to drop the games away at Catalans & home to Wire, leaving them on 36 points.

Lastly, I'd expect Warrington to win all their games till season end, which would leave them on 43 points.

So the top of the table would look like

1. Warrington 43pts
2. Wigan 42pts
3. Catalans 40pts
4. Leeds/St Helens 36pts
5. Leeds/St Helens 36pts
6. Hull FC 34pts
7. Bradford 29pts
8. Huddersfield 26pts
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9. Hull KR 25pts

I also reckon that our loss in France will be substantial, and that Saints will be tight. So I'm placing them ahead of us on PD, so we'd finish 5th, again.

Playoffs-Round 1

Warrington v Saints, Warrington Win
Wigan v Catalans, Catalans Win
Leeds v Huddersfield, Leeds Win
Hull FC v Bradford, Bradford Win

Round 2

Saints v Leeds, Saints win
Catalans v Hull FC, Catalans win

Round 3

Warrington v Catalans, Catalans Win
Wigan v St Helens, Wigan Win

Grand Final

Wigan beat Catalans.

you clearly need to spend your vast ammount of spare time more wisely by getting some new songs for your band to sing in the SS
you've got the whole seasons scenario sorted out already and there's still 7 rounds to go?

Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:02 pm  

rhinoms wrote:

Catalans won't make the GF imo it willbe between either Leeds ,Wigan ,ST's and Wire.

at least we're on the same wave length here as as i also believe that only one of those 4 sides can win this years grand final.
clearly if wigan and warrington don't bottle it yet again this season then surely they are both favourites to not only to reach the grand final but also the challenge cup final too
however i would never ever write off either the saints or the rhino's in spoiling those 2 clubs party parade celebrations

Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:44 pm  

Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan wrote:

I reckon we should only lose one game from the league run-in, that being away at Catalans. All the others we should expect to come away with 2pts from, which would leave us on 36 points.

The only game I'd expect Catalans to drop is away at Hull, which would finish them on 40 points.

I'd bet on Wigan dropping the games against Wire & St helens, leaving them on 42 points,

I'd expect Saints to drop the games away at Catalans & home to Wire, leaving them on 36 points.

Lastly, I'd expect Warrington to win all their games till season end, which would leave them on 43 points.

So the top of the table would look like

1. Warrington 43pts
2. Wigan 42pts
3. Catalans 40pts
4. Leeds/St Helens 36pts
5. Leeds/St Helens 36pts
6. Hull FC 34pts
7. Bradford 29pts
8. Huddersfield 26pts
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9. Hull KR 25pts

I also reckon that our loss in France will be substantial, and that Saints will be tight. So I'm placing them ahead of us on PD, so we'd finish 5th, again.

Playoffs-Round 1

Warrington v Saints, Warrington Win
Wigan v Catalans, Catalans Win
Leeds v Huddersfield, Leeds Win
Hull FC v Bradford, Bradford Win

Round 2

Saints v Leeds, Saints win
Catalans v Hull FC, Catalans win

Round 3

Warrington v Catalans, Catalans Win
Wigan v St Helens, Wigan Win

Grand Final

Wigan beat Catalans.

Come on now, it's pointless even attempting to predict the final placings for top 8 and then how the top 8 will pan out from there, theres simply way too much water to pass under the bridge.

It simply doesn't allow for the element of chance and the crazy, unpredictable events sports can sometimes throw up.

Even when you have an idea of form going into the games. Last year you'd have predicted a warrington wigan final before the playoiffs. Neither even made it.

Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:04 pm  

Jonesy's a Legend wrote:

however i would never ever write off either the saints or the rhino's in spoiling those 2 clubs party parade celebrations

I don't think leeds will make the grand final this year. Yes, never write them off, still got the ability, dangerous playoff team...(insert cliche as appropriate). But last year leeds barely got a mention going into the playoffs, they then, without being disrespectful got to play what can only be described (to quote a very tedious poster) as rabble, up until the final eliminator.

Leeds would probably have a tougher run in wherever they finish this season, unless some of the good teams implode from nowhere. Plus, leeds are defending champions, everyone knows what happened last year, teams will be ready and waiting for leeds, they will be gunning for them.

I really fancy warrington to win the grand final personally. They've got the ability, but they seem to be biding their time this season and waiting for the playoffs. I don't think they care about finishing top like last season, I do think they've learnt from last season.

Wigan are very structured and systematic in their play. Warrington can be unpredictable and ''off the cuff'' but they still posess that forward power and defensive steel needed. That's why i think they'll be able to win the grand final this year, with the experience of what happened last season.

Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:16 am  

Wilbred T Pricklepop wrote:

Even when you have an idea of form going into the games. Last year you'd have predicted a warrington wigan final before the playoiffs. Neither even made it.

I'd be surprised if that list of his doesn't need altering after every remaining round. Hardly a week goes by without a shock somewhere or other as coaches play ducks and drakes with team selections.