Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:37 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Yawn.

Why don't you all just have an old fashioned duel or something.

Whoever loses dies. THE END.

Like the dark ages?

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:40 pm  

The GOP in Texas have a plan....

The GOP in Texas have a plan....

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:56 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Yawn.

Why don't you all just have an old fashioned duel or something.

Whoever loses dies. THE END.

Ey up, one of the resident right-wing nut-jobs has turned up.

Considering entering the debate at all or just doing your usual flaming again?

[Kosh]

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:05 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

Maybe not scientific evidence, but then again science is concerned with the natural world, not the supernatural.

And you're wrong again. Science has frequently investigated the supernatural and found there to be no evidence to support the existence of it in the commonly accepted sense. Ditto the paranormal.

kirkstaller wrote:

I can just as easily say that everyone who has looked at it critically will arrive at the same conclusion as me.

Only if you don't understand what critical analysis actually means.

kirkstaller wrote:

Other people can corroborate the power of baptism in the Holy Spirit - even people who didn't want to find God.

Not objectively or independently. Which is the key point.

[Kosh]

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:08 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

I understand the science well enough

As a scientist myself, I can assure you that on the evidence of your posts you don't. At all. In any way.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:02 pm  

Kosh wrote:

And you're wrong again. Science has frequently investigated the supernatural and found there to be no evidence to support the existence of it in the commonly accepted sense. Ditto the paranormal.

How can science investigate the supernatural? How do you put God in a test tube?

Only if you don't understand what critical analysis actually means.

You're saying the same as the other poster. Yours is the only conclusion which is sensible and everyone else's is silly. Why?

Not objectively or independently. Which is the key point.

What if those people were Muslims, Jews and even atheists? You can't get much more independent of Christianity than that

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:03 pm  

Kosh wrote:

As a scientist myself, I can assure you that on the evidence of your posts you don't. At all. In any way.

Yes you know everything and I know nothing. Classic argument from authority.

[Kosh]

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:20 am  

kirkstaller wrote:

How can science investigate the supernatural? How do you put God in a test tube?

Ah, right. So now we establish that you don't understand what supernatural means, either. Sigh.

kirkstaller wrote:

You're saying the same as the other poster. Yours is the only conclusion which is sensible and everyone else's is silly. Why?

Am I? The definition of critical analysis is hardly my personal opinion.

kirkstaller wrote:

What if those people were Muslims, Jews and even atheists? You can't get much more independent of Christianity than that

These are all examples of other people of faith, are they not? Hardly an independent viewpoint on a faith system really. If they debunk Christianity it puts their own complex system of fairytales at risk.

[Kosh]

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:28 am  

kirkstaller wrote:

Yes you know everything and I know nothing. Classic argument from authority.

Comprehension isn't one of your strong suits either, it seems.

I didn't claim to 'know everything'. I do, however, understand how science works. It's even been explained to you on this thread and others by several different people. And yet you continue to post statements that clearly indicate you either don't understand science or are deliberately misrepresenting it.

And BTW I was very careful to make plain that I was making a deduction from the evidence of your posts, not an assumption about you as a person of faith. There are any number of deeply religious people who not only understand science but are actually scientists. Often very good scientists. I reckon they'd be quite embarrassed by some of the stuff you've posted on this thread alone.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:33 am  

kirkstaller wrote:

Yes you know everything and I know nothing. Classic argument from authority.

this from a man who believes in a giant sky pixie

tell us the one about some beardy bloke parting the sea

or maybe the one about feeding 5,000 people with a tin of john west and a couple of slices of warburtons

or my personal favourite, the one where some dude put 2 of each creature on a boat, and none of the predatory creatues ate the prey creatures, we came from Adam and Eve, but God didn't like how it tipped up, so he murdered everyone apart from this Noah bloke and his kids,and they gave rise to all of mankind (you know, even Asian, American, African, Middle Eastern, European variants, we're all from the same stock, yes siree)

you should move to the deep south, you'd be welcome there.