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Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:57 pm  
Some of the criticism for Gelling is ridiculous. If it was a young local lad people wouldn't be so harsh. He's 21 and has never played winger in his whole life until a few weeks ago. Yeah he ain't beating people on the outside but this season neither was Richards, he continually came back inside. He finished his try very well and made a couple of strong carries. He'll do better at centre/SR
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Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:59 pm  
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I agree. When I've seen him this year he's been pretty unspectacular. He'll finish tries off like a natural winger will but he's not doing much anywhere else on the pitch. At the moment he'd be comparable to Jamie Foster.

If anyone deserves a shot on the wing it's Joe Burgess. If Williams is being considered for the first team then Burgess must be too.


Of the three youngsters Williams, Hampshire and Burgess, Burgess would get first chance for me, and I'm a big fan of all three.
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Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:12 pm  
i think hes doing a good job
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Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:20 pm  
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Some of the criticism for Gelling is ridiculous. If it was a young local lad people wouldn't be so harsh. He's 21 and has never played winger in his whole life until a few weeks ago. Yeah he ain't beating people on the outside but this season neither was Richards, he continually came back inside. He finished his try very well and made a couple of strong carries. He'll do better at centre/SR


Nothing to do with where he comes from, everything to do with how he's performing, and he just fails to make the best of chances and half-chances.

I agree he's got lots of potential, and I do think he'll come good eventually, but there are other players who have similar potential who aren't getting their chances to see if they can do better than him.
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Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:39 pm  
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Nothing to do with where he comes from, everything to do with how he's performing, and he just fails to make the best of chances and half-chances.

I agree he's got lots of potential, and I do think he'll come good eventually, but there are other players who have similar potential who aren't getting their chances to see if they can do better than him.


Ryan King would get murdered in defence and under the high ball. He ain't good enough from what I've seen. Richards often cuts inside
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Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:20 pm  
You can't fail to recognise the fact that Ryan king is a very good winger.England 16s,England 18s . Last season top try scorer. Pushed Matty Russell close for man of the match in the academy final. This season he was injured in the first game of the season against Barrow .He was still injured when he was selected to play in a pointless friendly against South Wales scorpions. Actually limping in the warm up . This knocked him back a further 3 weeks. He has scored 16 tries in the nines so far and he is still getting his confidence and speed back. I watch every game of the academy and the problem lies mainly with the centre not distributing the ball . He has gone full games without getting a single pass , only getting the ball running from dummy half , On his debut he scored 2 tries taken extremely well outside Carmont and would have had his third only for a forward pass from hock.For me he should be given the oportunity to show what he can do . As for saying he would get mullered under the high ball , Ryan has a very safe pair of hands , very rarely knocking on and extremely safe under the high ball .
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Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:28 pm  
Any winger new to the first team will be targeted, the physical presence that Gelling has gives him the advantage over the others being put forward for the first team.
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Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:36 pm  
Well, whoever plays on Friday should have a field day against Ainscough!
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Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:48 pm  
He is useful because he is such a handful to defenders. Seems to make more ground than other wingers. He didn't do anything wrong did he? All I saw was a raw athlete running hard and finishing off one good chance he got.
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Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:06 pm  
high crossfield kicks to Ainscoughs wing on Friday
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