FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Cladding
::[url=//saints.org.uk](Website)[/url]
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Administrator21064
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 01 199925 yearsth
OnlineLast PostLast Page
25th Apr 24 08:1124th Apr 24 09:33LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
RLFANS HQ
Signature
Image
Administrator

Re: Cladding : Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:36 am  
D.D. wrote:
All this and, according to Sadfish, only 6 people were dissatisfied. :wink:


No I said only 6 people were going about it all the time the rest read my post from January and digested it rather than ignoring it ;)
Albion 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star2681No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 27 201113 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
25th Jul 17 10:1225th Jul 17 09:24LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Cladding : Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:16 pm  
As some of you may be aware: there was a fans forum at LP and obviously the issue of cladding was bound to come up!

Our resident note taker from Redvee, Talk Some Sense, went to it tonight and this is what was said on the matter in his words:

'Cladding/stadium - Some aspects are not satisfactory, he says that. Finance is now as we all know in place to solve the issue and it will happen at the end of the season. He explained how the club bought the stadium as a package, didn't have the greatest involvement in design and bulild and the involvement they had was more to do with 'rugby' issues i.e dressing rroms etc. They are looking into this legally but the key thing is they are going to look to fix things and have fnances in place to do so'


I'm sure he won't mind me putting it on here!
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2931No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 13 200519 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
25th Mar 17 01:1725th Mar 17 01:11LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
In Dire Straits
Signature
I HATE ALL THE PIES

Re: Cladding : Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:47 pm  
Saddened! wrote:
I agree, dunno what she was reading.

Saints' statement is a pretty honest one. It's an admission that the original plans were agreed upon and paid for on the basis that the roof was to be as it is and for the gaps to be unclad. They have then admitted that following their own experience and the feedback from the fans that the initial design plans were insufficient to provide the level of comfort required. So this has brought up legal and contractual issues. They have then obviously gone back to the companies involved in the design work and are not happy with their response, hence the statement about considering legal action. They have then CONFIRMED the cladding will be done, at substantial cost in the off season.

Reading between the lines it would seem perhaps it was identified as a potential issue during the design phase and the club signed off the designs without cladding on the basis that is would cost £x to fix. It's then transpired it was required and it would cost significantly more.

Well done to Saints for making the statement and being as honest as they can be over it. Hopefully the legal and contractual issues can be resolved and the cashflow impact isn't too severe. I'd hate for this to restrict the club's ability to progress on the field.

(In other news, shows they are clearly at least reading the forums and listening to the fans, so well done to Mike Appleton or whoever it is that is doing that)



A good analysis I thnik.
I'm not sure what was actually stopping them from commenting about it ""The Club has had to refrain to date from public comment on the intended additional cladding to Langtree Park due to legal and contractual restrictions." - It could have said "yeah we will do the cladding but it will be in the close season etc etc" without too much detail.

With regards to the named project advisor company which Saints are considering possible legal action against; as a person who works in a credit industry I never fail to be amazed how some businesses ran by very intelligent people, when undergoing major projects, continue to make the mistake of putting their future and faith in the hands of companies which are financially unsound. The company in question according to public records has been insolvent (i.e total liabilities exceed total assets) for at least the last 4 years and is less than worthless.
I just hope Sainrts took suitable guarantees and/or insurance as this comapny is worth SFA.
Rommel 
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach5849
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 24 200420 yearsth
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th Apr 24 04:5925th Mar 24 12:12LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Haydock
Signature
Ahh Tesco
Building St Helens & Warrington's future
Destroying Wigans past

"Viva Ben Flower, Viva Ben Flower, could have won the cup but you Messed it up Viva Ben Flower"

Re: Cladding : Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:46 am  
Sadfish wrote:
No I said only 6 people were going about it all the time the rest read my post from January and digested it rather than ignoring it ;)


Name and shame them :wink: :SHIFTY:
Previous

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 119 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to St. Helens


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Leeds at Home
B0NES
38
6m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Once were Lo
8871
12m
Squad for Salford
The Speculat
3
14m
RD 9 Hull FC A
Trebor1
4
17m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
mwindass
514
17m
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 9
deanos rhino
27
20m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
57533
21m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
1596
21m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
35633
22m
Salford Away Travel Info
Uncle Rico
2
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
22s
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28353
31s
Toulouse next
Trojan Horse
11
32s
Squad for Salford
The Speculat
3
33s
Rowley
Exeter Rhino
96
41s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
35633
41s
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 9
deanos rhino
27
52s
IN 2025 Ryan Hall - Expires 2025
fanstanningl
39
1m
KR A
Zig
19
1m
Wigan academy products
Zig
15
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
1596
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Sam Eseh
Zig
1
TODAY
RD 9 Hull FC A
Trebor1
4
TODAY
Squad for Salford
The Speculat
3
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Info
Uncle Rico
2
TODAY
Hunslet RLFC
FIL
2
TODAY
Toulouse next
Trojan Horse
11
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Dragons
LeythIg
5
TODAY
Paul Rowley wont be taking the Hull FC job
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
SWINTON LIONS
Miserybusine
6
TODAY
swinton
Brew
2
TODAY
KR A
Zig
19
TODAY
Vale Terry Hill
Sadfish
1
TODAY
George King
satanicmills
5
TODAY
Widnes H
Bullseye
4
TODAY
French championship final
Cokey
4
TODAY
Josh Drinkwater
imwakefieldt
16
TODAY
Dons v Dewsbury Sunday 28/4/24 3pm
Keith Lard's
4
TODAY
Corey Hall
Dr Dreadnoug
20
TODAY
Darnell McIntosh to Leigh
LeythIg
21
TODAY
80 minutes
Start@1873
9
TODAY
Wigan academy products
Zig
15
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Salford Away
Douglas Blac
16
TODAY
Commentators
MorePlaymake
5
TODAY
Going down
Greg Florimo
5
TODAY
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong For the Batley Bulldogs
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Castleford away next
Deadcowboys1
16
TODAY
Ryan Hall to leave the Robins and join Leeds at the end of t
RoyBoy29
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong F..
976
Catalans Dragons Destroy Hull ..
710
Warrington Wolves Break Leigh ..
829
Huddersfield Giants Fight Back..
866
France v England International..
1635
Warrington Stun St Helens In C..
2284
2024 Challenge Cup Semi-Finals..
1842
Wigan Warriors Demolish Woeful..
1904
Hull KR Eliminate the Cup Hold..
2038
Bradford Bulls Come From Behin..
2444
Bradford Bulls Beat Feathersto..
2952
Giants Thrash FC Again For Top..
2869
Warrington Brush Aside The Rhi..
2467
Wigan Coast to Victory over Le..
2443
Giants Come From Behind For Ea..
2702
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.58M 2,417 ↓-4780,03314,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
National Rugby League 2024-R8
 FT
Hover 
NZ Warriors
24-27
Gold Coast
 FT
Hover 
St.George
18-60
Sydney
 FT
Hover 
Melbourne
54-20
Souths
Mens Super League XXVIII-R9
20:00
St.Helens
v
Huddersfield
 TOMORROW
National Rugby League 2024-R8
10:00
Manly
v
Parramatta
Mens Super League XXVIII-R9
20:00
Castleford
v
LondonB
20:00
Hull KR
v
Wigan
20:00
Leigh
v
Catalans
 Sat 27th Apr
National Rugby League 2024-R8
08:30
Wests
v
Brisbane
10:35
NQL Cowboys
v
Penrith
Womens Super League 2024-R2
12:00
LeedsW
v
Wire W
14:00
BarrowW
v
York V
Mens Super League XXVIII-R9
15:00
Salford
v
Warrington
Championship 2024-R6
18:00
Wakefield
v
Toulouse
 Sun 28th Apr
National Rugby League 2024-R8
05:00
Dolphins
v
Newcastle
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 25th Apr
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Huddersfield
Fri 26th Apr
SL
20:00
Castleford-LondonB
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Wigan
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 27th Apr
SL
15:00
Salford-Warrington
Sun 28th Apr
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Leeds
Sat 18th May
CC2024
13:15
Hull KR-Wigan
WOMCC2024
11:15
St.HelensW-York V
Sun 19th May
CC2024
15:15
Huddersfield-Warrington
WOMCC2024
12:30
WiganW-LeedsW
Sat 29th Jun
MINT2024
17:00
France M-England M
WINT2024
14:30
FRANCE W-ENGLAND W
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:00
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Thu 25th Apr
NRL
LIVE
NZ Warriors24-27Gold Coast
NRL
LIVE
St.George18-60Sydney
NRL
LIVE
Melbourne54-20Souths
Sun 21st Apr
NRL 7 Canterbury36-12Newcastle
NRL 7 Cronulla42-6NQL Cowboys
CH 5 Barrow6-38Doncaster
CH 5 Batley14-34Wakefield
CH 5 Featherstone32-24Widnes
CH 5 Halifax0-46Sheffield
CH 5 Swinton50-22Dewsbury
CH 5 York25-10Bradford
L1 5 Crusaders36-37Rochdale
L1 5 Cornwall6-72Midlands
L1 5 Hunslet18-30Workington
L1 5 Newcastle6-82Keighley
WSL2024 1 Wire W34-28FeatherstoneW
WSL2024 1 York V20-16St.HelensW
Sat 20th Apr
SL 8 Warrington16-14Leigh
SL 8 Catalans36-6Hull KR
SL 8 LondonB4-12Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Catalans 8 208 92 116 14
St.Helens 8 196 58 138 12
Wigan 7 224 92 132 12
Warrington 8 230 112 118 12
Hull KR 8 188 119 69 10
Huddersfield 8 206 150 56 10
 
Salford 8 163 158 5 10
Leeds 8 140 152 -12 8
Leigh 7 130 142 -12 2
Castleford 8 112 264 -152 2
Hull FC 8 86 310 -224 2
LondonB 8 74 308 -234 0
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 5 188 50 138 10
Sheffield 5 160 62 98 10
Widnes 5 160 70 90 8
Featherstone 5 128 92 36 6
Bradford 5 94 103 -9 6
Toulouse 5 108 81 27 4
 
Swinton 5 100 104 -4 4
Doncaster 5 104 140 -36 4
Barrow 5 78 139 -61 4
Halifax 5 66 135 -69 4
Whitehaven 5 73 145 -72 4
Batley 5 73 112 -39 2
Dewsbury 5 82 129 -47 2
York 5 79 131 -52 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Leeds at Home
B0NES
38
6m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Once were Lo
8871
12m
Squad for Salford
The Speculat
3
14m
RD 9 Hull FC A
Trebor1
4
17m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
mwindass
514
17m
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 9
deanos rhino
27
20m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
57533
21m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
1596
21m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
35633
22m
Salford Away Travel Info
Uncle Rico
2
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
22s
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28353
31s
Toulouse next
Trojan Horse
11
32s
Squad for Salford
The Speculat
3
33s
Rowley
Exeter Rhino
96
41s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
35633
41s
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 9
deanos rhino
27
52s
IN 2025 Ryan Hall - Expires 2025
fanstanningl
39
1m
KR A
Zig
19
1m
Wigan academy products
Zig
15
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
1596
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Sam Eseh
Zig
1
TODAY
RD 9 Hull FC A
Trebor1
4
TODAY
Squad for Salford
The Speculat
3
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Info
Uncle Rico
2
TODAY
Hunslet RLFC
FIL
2
TODAY
Toulouse next
Trojan Horse
11
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Dragons
LeythIg
5
TODAY
Paul Rowley wont be taking the Hull FC job
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
SWINTON LIONS
Miserybusine
6
TODAY
swinton
Brew
2
TODAY
KR A
Zig
19
TODAY
Vale Terry Hill
Sadfish
1
TODAY
George King
satanicmills
5
TODAY
Widnes H
Bullseye
4
TODAY
French championship final
Cokey
4
TODAY
Josh Drinkwater
imwakefieldt
16
TODAY
Dons v Dewsbury Sunday 28/4/24 3pm
Keith Lard's
4
TODAY
Corey Hall
Dr Dreadnoug
20
TODAY
Darnell McIntosh to Leigh
LeythIg
21
TODAY
80 minutes
Start@1873
9
TODAY
Wigan academy products
Zig
15
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Salford Away
Douglas Blac
16
TODAY
Commentators
MorePlaymake
5
TODAY
Going down
Greg Florimo
5
TODAY
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong For the Batley Bulldogs
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Castleford away next
Deadcowboys1
16
TODAY
Ryan Hall to leave the Robins and join Leeds at the end of t
RoyBoy29
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong F..
976
Catalans Dragons Destroy Hull ..
710
Warrington Wolves Break Leigh ..
829
Huddersfield Giants Fight Back..
866
France v England International..
1635
Warrington Stun St Helens In C..
2284
2024 Challenge Cup Semi-Finals..
1842
Wigan Warriors Demolish Woeful..
1904
Hull KR Eliminate the Cup Hold..
2038
Bradford Bulls Come From Behin..
2444
Bradford Bulls Beat Feathersto..
2952
Giants Thrash FC Again For Top..
2869
Warrington Brush Aside The Rhi..
2467
Wigan Coast to Victory over Le..
2443
Giants Come From Behind For Ea..
2702


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!