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Why should one presume that Escare would have improved the defence.The tries stemmed from our forwards failure to slow down theirs and from their focus on our right wing where the ever fatter Yaha was very poor.We did not actually concede any of the ultra soft tries characterised by missed tackles that distinguish Escare. Gigot made one terrible knockon, which led to nothing, but otherwise, performed bravely and did not make any serious errors. To say it again, our forwards were outclassed and outskilled. What can we do about that?
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And another thing....The French fans seem to think that Taylor is an excellent acquisition. If one measures it by having a four stone overweight wrecking ball, who can function well for about ten minutes, they have a point. If one measures it by any test of skill or stamina, or above all, defensive positional sense - Taylor kept on running out of our defensive line to no effect in terms of stopping the attack, and to much effect in terms of enabling our line to be broken - he is a disastrous acquisition.
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Why should one presume that Escare would have improved the defence.The tries stemmed from our forwards failure to slow down theirs and from their focus on our right wing where the ever fatter Yaha was very poor.We did not actually concede any of the ultra soft tries characterised by missed tackles that distinguish Escare. Gigot made one terrible knockon, which led to nothing, but otherwise, performed bravely and did not make any serious errors. To say it again, our forwards were outclassed and outskilled. What can we do about that?
Because Escare being in the team would've allowed Gigot to play in the centres and Inu on the wing, which was a solid enough combination that won a lot of games last season and probably wouldn't have been exposed in the way that Inu and Yaha were. And 'ultra soft tries' or not, the team was never flogged by that scoreline at home with Escare there. If Escare was having to make tackles then that means the line has been broken and that's a problem in its own right, constantly blaming Escare for every try is like blaming the goalkeeper in football every time a goal is scored and ignoring the defensive mistakes from all the other players that led to the situation.

Gigot also did miss one very soft tackle leading to a crucial try in the first half, and on many occasions the team was crying out for someone in the middle to back up Horo, which Escare would've provided. But I'm not blaming Gigot, I would just like to see him moved back to the position that he was so effective last year and we can stop this myth that Escare is the cause of the poor defence.
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I should have said that Horo had a terrible game yesterday.The line was broken many times yesterday without it leading to a try.That's because Escare was not there.
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Collectively, the defence was poor. Sika Manu's try, for example.
We miss Hendo more than we realise. Not just as a defender, but as an organiser of defences.
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Collectively, the defence was poor. Sika Manu's try, for example.
We miss Hendo more than we realise. Not just as a defender, but as an organiser of defences.



Spot on about Henderson. I used to hate it when I saw he was playing against us. A real pain in the bum for us, but a massive boost for you lads.
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Collectively, the defence was poor. Sika Manu's try, for example.
We miss Hendo more than we realise. Not just as a defender, but as an organiser of defences.



If Aiton was playing we would miss him less but without either of them, it really showed.
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