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Posted by Mild Rover on Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:58 pm
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On a similar note, matty beharrel has played for Swinton and Keighley in 2016 and 2017, and Sonny Esslemont played a handful of games for the Cougars in '16.
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Talking of all of these ex players playing in the lower divisions it shows the club were right to release them even if us as fans at the time don't think it's the right decision
einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result
Posted by luke ShipleyRed on Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:19 pm
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But some of that's down to not being given a chance at SL. As well as some players not being good enough.

Personally liked Ollett & Guzdek (who's been doing very well), and think they could have made it. The others put in a few good games but lacked consistency. James Green was in that mould, and am suprised Cas signed him. After all wasn't really tearing up trees at Leigh. Never saw Robinson play, though heard very good things about him.
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Posted by fun time frankie on Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:55 pm
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luke ShipleyRed wrote:
But some of that's down to not being given a chance at SL. As well as some players not being good enough.

Personally liked Ollett & Guzdek (who's been doing very well), and think they could have made it. The others put in a few good games but lacked consistency. James Green was in that mould, and am suprised Cas signed him. After all wasn't really tearing up trees at Leigh. Never saw Robinson play, though heard very good things about him.

I disagree if the players were good enough they'd be playing SL regardless whether it was with us granted some may develop later but you don't always have time to allow that unfortunately
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I disagree if the players were good enough they'd be playing SL regardless whether it was with us granted some may develop later but you don't always have time to allow that unfortunately



It's a product of where we are. Not comfortable enough in the league to give them a run.
To be fair I like Oakes, think Lawler will be one hell of a player when he played in his proper position (sr/LF for me). And Sheens is bringing in quite a few younger players. Who we'll hopefully keep for a while.
And like I said Guzdek & Ollett were the 2 I was most disappointed to see leave.
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Re: General off season Rovers chat thread
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Posted by Mild Rover on Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:00 pm
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I don't think there's ever such a thing as comfortable though, certainly no more than a couple of dead rubbers at the end of the season. And results mattering is a key attraction for top flight sport. When you're struggling you need wins to get away from the foot of the table, higher up you're fighting to get into or remain in contention. The first team is where you should play when you've developed, not where you become ready, IMO. It can be a bit catch-22, I admit.

Over 10 years of SL our player development didn't really deliver, I think it has to be admitted. With the odd exception. The criticism started laughably early, but tbh we seemed to go backwards over time in this area. Hopefully the current/next crop fare better than the last 2 or 3, and the CoHA works out well.
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Posted by fun time frankie on Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:26 pm
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I don't think there's ever such a thing as comfortable though, certainly no more than a couple of dead rubbers at the end of the season. And results mattering is a key attraction for top flight sport. When you're struggling you need wins to get away from the foot of the table, higher up you're fighting to get into or remain in contention. The first team is where you should play when you've developed, not where you become ready, IMO. It can be a bit catch-22, I admit.

Over 10 years of SL our player development didn't really deliver, I think it has to be admitted. With the odd exception. The criticism started laughably early, but tbh we seemed to go backwards over time in this area. Hopefully the current/next crop fare better than the last 2 or 3, and the CoHA works out well.

I'd say there's only Wigan and Leeds who bring players through in numbers from there academy's
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Just like to wish everyone seasons greetings. And a happy new year
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Posted by luke ShipleyRed on Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:37 am
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Bit more on former Rovers players.

Alex Brown (liked him when he played for us. Useless in defence but a quality finnisher), has signed for Bradford for next year. Scott Wheeldon, Keal Carlisle & Frankie Mariano are all at Featherstone. Josh Guzdek & Macauley Hallett are both at Dewsbury. Chris Heil & Sonny Esslemont are both at Hemel. And Omari Caro is now at London Skolars.

Got to say other than Guzdek, it's not hard to see why the club got rid of these players.
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