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Re: Kevin Larroyer : Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:42 pm  
I knew Super Kev wasn't getting a contract around about July, and I know nowt about anything to do with the inner workings of the club so he must be a right wassock to be so in the dark.

I like eating snails though, and steak tartare, but only whilst in the company of vegetarian or vegan friends.
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Re: Kevin Larroyer : Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:33 am  
Ultimately the right call from Rovers not to retain as he's crap, but it does sound like Larroyer knew that relegation meant his remaining 2 year contact was null & void and sought assurances from the club as to his future, which according to him was given:

"I was asking people at the club whether I still had a future there. I was told I definitely did, so wasn't worried. I then had a later meeting and was told there was no space for me. I feel like, at some stage, they haven't been really honest with me."

There's always two sides to every story, but doesn't look great, especially after the bleating Hudgell did about loyalty when Adam Walker left. Loyalty only works one way of course.
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Re: Kevin Larroyer : Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:42 pm  
Never seemed to recover from his ankle injury at castleford,and if he didnt think he was going to be released he must be very naive.
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Re: Kevin Larroyer : Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:57 pm  
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Never seemed to recover from his ankle injury at castleford,and if he didnt think he was going to be released he must be very naive.


From the HDM quotes, it sounds like he was proactive in speaking to Rovers about his contract issue, which I don't think points to him being naïve or taking anything for granted.

Maybe he was naïve to have believed them in saying he had a future there?

Regardless of how crap he is and whether it was the right decision to let him go, it sounds like he deserved better from his employer.
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Re: Kevin Larroyer : Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:49 pm  
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From the HDM quotes, it sounds like he was proactive in speaking to Rovers about his contract issue, which I don't think points to him being naïve or taking anything for granted.

Maybe he was naïve to have believed them in saying he had a future there?

Regardless of how crap he is and whether it was the right decision to let him go, it sounds like he deserved better from his employer.

As I've been partly paying his wages for the last two seasons I think I deserved better from him
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Re: Kevin Larroyer : Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:09 pm  
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As I've been partly paying his wages for the last two seasons I think I deserved better from him


You've probably contributed £5 to his annual salary, well done.

His performances aren't really relevant are they, in terms of how a player should be treated (assuming what he says is how it happened, and he's been messed about). His performances let us understand the reason Rovers didn't retain him, which was the right call, but not the way they apparently went about it.

He obviously trusted that he did have a future there and a new (and less £) contract would be on it's way, therefore he didn't plan to be effectively out of work. You could look at it one way and say he was naïve with that trust and not to plan for worst case, or that he's been messed about and it's left him in a pretty stressful position.
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Re: Kevin Larroyer : Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:48 pm  
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You've probably contributed £5 to his annual salary, well done.

His performances aren't really relevant are they, in terms of how a player should be treated (assuming what he says is how it happened, and he's been messed about). His performances let us understand the reason Rovers didn't retain him, which was the right call, but not the way they apparently went about it.

He obviously trusted that he did have a future there and a new (and less £) contract would be on it's way, therefore he didn't plan to be effectively out of work. You could look at it one way and say he was naïve with that trust and not to plan for worst case, or that he's been messed about and it's left him in a pretty stressful position.



TBH you've heard 1 side of the story. He's not really going to turn round and say, 'I was too naive and its now landed me in the brown stuff' is he? You are summarizing based on evidence in an article which in itself is probably an exaggeration of what he said. Its about as reliable as someone on here saying they heard from a reliable source.

For what its worth, supporters knew months ago he wasn't going to be here in 2017 and that was before the mpg. Am I bothered he's leaving? Not really but i am disappointed he didn't live up to the expectations he set for the fans in his first season with us.
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Re: Kevin Larroyer : Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:28 pm  
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TBH you've heard 1 side of the story. He's not really going to turn round and say, 'I was too naive and its now landed me in the brown stuff' is he? You are summarizing based on evidence in an article which in itself is probably an exaggeration of what he said. Its about as reliable as someone on here saying they heard from a reliable source.


I said the same thing in my first post, and haven't worded anything to suggest otherwise.

If it was completely his own fault as you suggest, why would he say anything to the HDM at all?
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Re: Kevin Larroyer : Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:31 pm  
I understand the 1 side of the story however, this doesn't look good for a club that will already be at a disadvantage for 2018 recruitment.

If supporters really knew he was going and therefore the club had made up their mind why wasn't he released straight after the MPG and given an opportunity to find another club when budgets were still available?

From outside this looks like a poor treatment of a loyal player
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Re: Kevin Larroyer : Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:55 pm  
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From an FC Supporting Outsider, this looks like an opportunity to slag off Rovers


Seriously though, he said himself he hadn't even discussed any figures with us. It shows you how far his contract negotiations went.

The MPG was 01/10/16, our first signing wasn't announced until the week after, so there is a month gap between then and him being announced as released on the 10/11/16 (he likely knew before then)

He likely had a troubling month, when it dawned on him that he wasn't getting offered a deal. But I find it unlikely that he would have been taking out mortgages and buying new cars etc on the premise that someone may or may not have said "don't worry Kevin, contract's in the post".
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