Re: Chester : Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:57 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

That's what the early signs would suggest.

A direct comparison is difficult, because Hull lost Paea, Lineham and Westerman they had more need and scope to get a few new high earners.

Rovers needs seemed more basic, but we didn't do a great job of addressing them. So for their respective needs, I'd have to agree. Perhaps we were distracted by the cup run or delayed by having to qualify for SL 2016. In the past the club has made a virtue of securing late signings at good prices when everybody else has committed their budget - but perhaps this year there were fewer options. There are still rumours of another signing, but as far as we know we're quota'd up I can't see any obvious options domestically.

You didn't really lose any players at the end of last season who would have freed up much cap though which is presumably hy you've gone for cheap options. Hull had a big wedge available with the players who left

Re: Chester : Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:33 am  

Razor wrote:

hull have recruited well you seem to have not

I still think that's up for debate after a few rounds, As I have said Hull have gone for bulk which in a 10 minute stints will go ok, once the season starts and these players have to play long stints then we will see if this was a wise option. If the reduction in interchanges comes about next year it will be even more telling.

I personally think Hull have only replaced like for like, strengthened areas they were already strong and potentially weakened the strike ability.

I've wiped the preseason out and am now willing to see how the team goes in a real game situation.

Re: Chester : Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:29 pm  

barham red wrote:

I still think that's up for debate after a few rounds, As I have said Hull have gone for bulk which in a 10 minute stints will go ok, once the season starts and these players have to play long stints then we will see if this was a wise option. If the reduction in interchanges comes about next year it will be even more telling.

I personally think Hull have only replaced like for like, strengthened areas they were already strong and potentially weakened the strike ability.

I've wiped the preseason out and am now willing to see how the team goes in a real game situation.

I don't think Hull have gone for bulk. manu is lighter than westerman, fonua is lighter than lineham and taylor is lighter than paea. Manu and taylor can both do long minutes and pritchard regularly did the full 80 last season in the NRL so I don't think there's any issue with fitness. What they have done is added a bit more quality and experience and got rid or a couple of players who didn't really have the right approach.

If you really think that rovers have improved their squad enough to improve their league position then good for you

Re: Chester : Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:58 pm  

"As I have said Hull have gone for bulk which in a 10 minute stints will go ok, once the season starts and these players have to play long stints then we will see if this was a wise option" ......Yes, but that bulk gave Hull an over-whelming and match winning score advantage in a 10 minute stint, it deflated the opposition (us) and boosted their morale (it took the stress off their backs and made them feel confident) .....And, let's face it, scoring tries is what the game is all about ......Honestly, would you rather have Hull's pack or Rover's pack at this moment in time?

Re: Chester : Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:14 pm  

Geoff Tipps wrote:

"As I have said Hull have gone for bulk which in a 10 minute stints will go ok, once the season starts and these players have to play long stints then we will see if this was a wise option" ......Yes, but that bulk gave Hull an over-whelming and match winning score advantage in a 10 minute stint, it deflated the opposition (us) and boosted their morale (it took the stress off their backs and made them feel confident) .....And, let's face it, scoring tries is what the game is all about ......Honestly, would you rather have Hull's pack or Rover's pack at this moment in time?

He'd rather have rovers' obviously as ours will be knackered before the first round of interchanges start.

Honestly, some people seem to believe everything that your board members say

Re: Chester : Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:21 pm  

To be fair, I'd take Hemel Hempsteads pack over ours at the moment.

Re: Chester : Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:36 pm  

Geoff Tipps wrote:

"As I have said Hull have gone for bulk which in a 10 minute stints will go ok, once the season starts and these players have to play long stints then we will see if this was a wise option" ......Yes, but that bulk gave Hull an over-whelming and match winning score advantage in a 10 minute stint, it deflated the opposition (us) and boosted their morale (it took the stress off their backs and made them feel confident) .....And, let's face it, scoring tries is what the game is all about ......Honestly, would you rather have Hull's pack or Rover's pack at this moment in time?

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Not denying our pack looks weak but the way some are talking is that hull have suddenly gone from scraping the 8 to being grand final material based on a pre season friendly.

It's far too early to start handing out trophies and relegation places before s game has been played in anger. Let's see where everyone is in April before making any big decisions.

Re: Chester : Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:41 am  

I agree regarding all the preseason hype, but the question was which pack would YOU prefer at this moment in time .....Hull FC's or Hull KR's?

Re: Chester : Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:42 am  

Geoff Tipps wrote:

I agree regarding all the preseason hype, but the question was which pack would YOU prefer at this moment in time .....Hull FC's or Hull KR's?

Didn't realise we had a choice? I'd prefer St Helens pack if we had an open choice.

Its all about balance, we can all pick the best parts of any team at any particular time but thats not how it works. Am I happy with the way our squad seems to be? No. Do I think we'll be up there challengine? No But I also think we'll be better than we have shown in preseason over the course of the year.

Put it this way I'm not about to go place a bet on us finishing bottom or Hull finishing top on the back of a crap preseason. I may go out and place one on us both finishing between 7th and 10th and don't expect to be far wrong come the end of the season.

Re: Chester : Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:42 am  

So we could finish 5 the and you 12th and you wouldn't be far wrong