The implications of Dual Registration : Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:54 am  

The Dons recruitment policy this season has been to recruit promising youngsters. I understand the reason for them doing this but I see a major problem ... more in a moment.

The competition in our league is tough this season with no easy matches. In order to be competitive in the matches we are going to need a fair amount of assistance from Hull.

If we continue to use four or five Hull players in our 17 man squad, this is going to limit opportunities for our own squad players, and almost reduce the chances of any of the youngsters we recruited from getting anywhere near making the team.

It's a double-edged sword: If we don't use Hull players, we won't be as competitive as we otherwise would; if we do use Hull players, our own squad players will have limited opportunities.

How long will it be before the players get fed up of turning up week-in, week-out for training and not playing on a Sunday? I think this is a ticking time bomb. Players want to play, not train without playing.

How do we develop the youngsters without any game time, and how do we keep squad players match fit for when they're called upon?

Thoughts please ....

Re: The implications of Dual Registration : Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:55 am  

In that respect basically we're k*******d

Re: The implications of Dual Registration : Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:02 am  

I really dont like the dual reg system as we are currently using it as we are essentially acting as Hull's A-Team and we never know who we are going to have. These players we are getting from Hull should be ours for the season and not a pick and mix every week of who need to get fitter.

I agree that our recruitment without the DR players has left us pretty vulnerable and I don't think we should have relied upon it as much as we clearly are going to have to. DR should give us options not be there to make up the core of the team.

At the moment it doesnt feel like a Doncaster side with the DR and Eagles moving in to me it just feels like we are generic Rugby League side B.

Re: The implications of Dual Registration : Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:06 pm  

Never have liked the dual reg system, but to be fair, we have had the use of some good players, both from Wakefield and Hull. I don't think it is now used as it was intended, what we see more of now is players, coming back from injury, or needing match fitness, and if they aren't fit to play for Hull, what makes them fit to play for the Dons?. As for our players not getting any game time, well, I know how I would feel, but we have entered a system with Hull and they want something out of it as well so...no easy answers.

[Wanderer]

Re: The implications of Dual Registration : Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:11 pm  

Double Movement wrote:

The Dons recruitment policy this season has been to recruit promising youngsters. I understand the reason for them doing this but I see a major problem ... more in a moment.

The competition in our league is tough this season with no easy matches. In order to be competitive in the matches we are going to need a fair amount of assistance from Hull.

If we continue to use four or five Hull players in our 17 man squad, this is going to limit opportunities for our own squad players, and almost reduce the chances of any of the youngsters we recruited from getting anywhere near making the team.

It's a double-edged sword: If we don't use Hull players, we won't be as competitive as we otherwise would; if we do use Hull players, our own squad players will have limited opportunities.

How long will it be before the players get fed up of turning up week-in, week-out for training and not playing on a Sunday? I think this is a ticking time bomb. Players want to play, not train without playing.

How do we develop the youngsters without any game time, and how do we keep squad players match fit for when they're called upon?

Thoughts please ....

I did wonder if, through a similar agreement, some of our players might get game time at a C1 Club such as York or Keighley? Not sure how practical this would be, but just a thought.

Re: The implications of Dual Registration : Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:17 pm  

Unless we run a second team, we will have wasted our time with 'promising youngsters'.
And that won't happen to help us this season.
So I don't really know why we got them.
They weren't good enough to go into the rigours of this league straight off and are essentially bodies in case of injuries.

The key positions are still not covered by FIT players ... full back, scrum half, decent centres, decent props, that belong to us.
So I see it as a shambles ...a rag, tag and bobtail of a cobbled together side with little continuity and the understanding that playing with the SAME individuals every game brings.

Apart from that I think everything is just fine.
COYD

I'm still wondering where our first win is going to come from though ... the cup maybe.

Yours,
Mr Pessimistic of Scawsby.
COYD

Re: The implications of Dual Registration : Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:29 pm  

Don't really want to mention the Eagles again, so here goes ......
They have got it right and we haven't.

I watched 25 mins of their game and the contrast between that and what we served up was alarming.

They looked like a MACHINE ... every man knew his job. Every player was comfortable with those around him.
In short the were a stable TEAM ... and a bloody good one as well.

COYD

Re: The implications of Dual Registration : Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:38 pm  

Double Movement wrote:

The Dons recruitment policy this season has been to recruit promising youngsters. I understand the reason for them doing this but I see a major problem ... more in a moment.

The competition in our league is tough this season with no easy matches. In order to be competitive in the matches we are going to need a fair amount of assistance from Hull.

If we continue to use four or five Hull players in our 17 man squad, this is going to limit opportunities for our own squad players, and almost reduce the chances of any of the youngsters we recruited from getting anywhere near making the team.

It's a double-edged sword: If we don't use Hull players, we won't be as competitive as we otherwise would; if we do use Hull players, our own squad players will have limited opportunities.

How long will it be before the players get fed up of turning up week-in, week-out for training and not playing on a Sunday? I think this is a ticking time bomb. Players want to play, not train without playing.

How do we develop the youngsters without any game time, and how do we keep squad players match fit for when they're called upon?

Thoughts please ....

It was well documented that when the majority of the young players signed for the dons they were not garenteed a first team place they were going to have to earn a place I know they won't get a game to so this but they have to work hard in training etc and most of the young players were quoted as saying they came to learn and play the odd game under Paul Cooke , they way some of them adapted in the friendly games was credit to them and Paul , i do think when we play some lesser teams one or two will get game time , we do need the assistance from hull right now

Re: The implications of Dual Registration : Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:21 pm  

Wanderer wrote:

I did wonder if, through a similar agreement, some of our players might get game time at a C1 Club such as York or Keighley? Not sure how practical this would be, but just a thought.

From memory, I think that only Super League clubs are able to have a DR with another club but it would seem to make sense to let our players go on loan to get some match practice. I'm not sure if the loan system means that a player cannot be recalled for a minimum of 28 days though, which could be a bit of a drawback.

I understand that the youngsters could well have wanted to come to be coached by PC - rightly so, but the only way to really learn the game is to get experience through playing in games.

I wonder if we could loan them to some of the local amateur sides for game time to help forge better links with them?

[Wanderer]

Re: The implications of Dual Registration : Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:01 am  

Double Movement wrote:

From memory, I think that only Super League clubs are able to have a DR with another club but it would seem to make sense to let our players go on loan to get some match practice. I'm not sure if the loan system means that a player cannot be recalled for a minimum of 28 days though, which could be a bit of a drawback.

I understand that the youngsters could well have wanted to come to be coached by PC - rightly so, but the only way to really learn the game is to get experience through playing in games.

I wonder if we could loan them to some of the local amateur sides for game time to help forge better links with them?

Talking to one of the Dons officials on Sunday, it seems that there is a 48 hour call back clause in the 28 day loans. I'd just like to see some of our players getting some game time elsewhere in case they do get a call-up from PC.