Re: Pathetic, Abysmal ????.... : Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:12 pm  

Despite last night's showing, I think Hull F.C is on the up.

That being said I wrote to Adam Pearson following our slaughter in the play-offs against Huddersfield in Sept, 2013. I've included an extract I wrote to him and still believe this is where Hull's real problem is:

"......one suggestion is to assess player performance in the context of how many 'good' games they have in a season. My view is that we are lacking players who can play consistently well week in, week out. We should be developing a squad where the stats prove that all players are putting in 'good' performances on a ratio of 1:3 rather than what I believe could be 1:6 or worse. On a 1:3 ratio that would mean any player would play 9 good games out of the whole Super League season: is that too much to ask of a professional? Apply that across a squad of 17 players and coaching team and this is where I think improvement must be made and where we reduce the number of overall losses, draws, and debacles such as last night."

How this inconsistency is 'coached out,' I don't know but too many players don't seem to know how to either play their way out of a corner or put their xollocxx on the line and fight their way out.

Re: Pathetic, Abysmal ????.... : Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:16 pm  

nleech wrote:

Despite last night's showing, I think Hull F.C is on the up.

That being said I wrote to Adam Pearson following our slaughter in the play-offs against Huddersfield in Sept, 2013. I've included an extract I wrote to him and still believe this is where Hull's real problem is:

"......one suggestion is to assess player performance in the context of how many 'good' games they have in a season. My view is that we are lacking players who can play consistently well week in, week out. We should be developing a squad where the stats prove that all players are putting in 'good' performances on a ratio of 1:3 rather than what I believe could be 1:6 or worse. On a 1:3 ratio that would mean any player would play 9 good games out of the whole Super League season: is that too much to ask of a professional? Apply that across a squad of 17 players and coaching team and this is where I think improvement must be made and where we reduce the number of overall losses, draws, and debacles such as last night."

How this inconsistency is 'coached out,' I don't know but too many players don't seem to know how to either play their way out of a corner or put their xollocxx on the line and fight their way out.

Did you get a reply?

I like the "back to basics" approach of your player analysis. Play better, and do it more often. Easy isn't it? Are you in consultancy?

Re: Pathetic, Abysmal ????.... : Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:22 pm  

And lo, here they are...

The "never been stuffed at home, never left early, holier than thou" brigade. Welcome guys!

Re: Pathetic, Abysmal ????.... : Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:25 pm  

nleech wrote:

Despite last night's showing, I think Hull F.C is on the up.

That being said I wrote to Adam Pearson following our slaughter in the play-offs against Huddersfield in Sept, 2013. I've included an extract I wrote to him and still believe this is where Hull's real problem is:

"......one suggestion is to assess player performance in the context of how many 'good' games they have in a season. My view is that we are lacking players who can play consistently well week in, week out. We should be developing a squad where the stats prove that all players are putting in 'good' performances on a ratio of 1:3 rather than what I believe could be 1:6 or worse. On a 1:3 ratio that would mean any player would play 9 good games out of the whole Super League season: is that too much to ask of a professional? Apply that across a squad of 17 players and coaching team and this is where I think improvement must be made and where we reduce the number of overall losses, draws, and debacles such as last night."

How this inconsistency is 'coached out,' I don't know but too many players don't seem to know how to either play their way out of a corner or put their xollocxx on the line and fight their way out.

Your club will never achieve anything if you are only expecting them to play one good match in three. Out of a squad of 17, on average, only just over 5 players would be having a good match. I doubt you would win many matches with this scenario.

Re: Pathetic, Abysmal ????.... : Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:29 pm  

Keiththered wrote:

Your club will never achieve anything if you are only expecting them to play one good match in three. Out of a squad of 17, on average, only just over 5 players would be having a good match. I doubt you would win many matches with this scenario.

Well you would know, having watched your lot fail to achieve in god knows how many years.

Re: Pathetic, Abysmal ????.... : Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:55 pm  

Lostyorkie wrote:

The problem though is Lee Radford has had more time and money then any coach that I can ever remember

Were you not around when Rich Agar was here?

Lostyorkie wrote:

But if the whistle blew to start the game and then people walked out it would provide a clear message of no confidence that could not be seen as an emotional response.

If you're expecting people to fork out the money to get into the game & then walk out as soon as it's kicked off then you're going to be sorely disappointed.

Re: Pathetic, Abysmal ????.... : Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:17 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Campese's better than Millward you fool.

Bit before my time but I really hope you are right Mrs Barista. Anyway HKR board must think he has something special because they are looking to extend his contract.

Re: Pathetic, Abysmal ????.... : Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:32 pm  

Same s**t , different season.

Re: Pathetic, Abysmal ????.... : Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:36 pm  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

We are 4 games in, and as bad as we were last night there are clearly worse teams in this league than us. Wakefield shipped nearly 60 points at Widnes last week ffs.
We need to stop looking for ridiculous excuses every week, admit that appointing Radford was a mistake and bring in someone who can give us a clear plan of where we want to go. The club Hull idea is fine, but we are building it on sand.

Hudd's apart, you have yet to prove there are worse teams than yours, Wakefield is everybody's favourite to go down so for you to compare yourself with them in a desperate attempt to defend your teams poor start is laughable, that being so even IF you finish three places higher in the league than them, and there's no guarantee you will, you'll still be mixing it with the likes of Batley, disappointing for a club who along with their fans' had high expectations. I suppose the best way for you to compare yourself against Wakey if you must, is wait till you have played Widnes at their place as well.

Re: Pathetic, Abysmal ????.... : Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:54 pm  

Hessle Roader wrote:

Well you would know, having watched your lot fail to achieve in god knows how many years.

That's the way. Why bring KR into it when the issue under discussion was the expectations of one of your supporters of your players. Is that the height you can reach with your contribution?