Re: City, should we be concerned? : Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:38 pm  

i am beginning to see why now.

The KC Pitch is designed to have a certain number of matches a year on it 55/56 or close to that now with both CITY and FC playing that takes up the design limit. If city require extra slots for there u19 team then I guess I can see where that has to come from and this could be part of the current campaign against FC.

The problem with the SMC seems to be when Bartlett took loans out against it, the transfer of those debts seems to have set up some sort of rider that effectively excludes the city council from exercising control over what is in effect there property.

I do not think the council wants to be seen as doing anything that would be to the detriment of Hull City, at the moment anyways

Re: City, should we be concerned? : Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:27 am  

Ian P wrote:

i am beginning to see why now.

The KC Pitch is designed to have a certain number of matches a year on it 55/56 or close to that now with both CITY and FC playing that takes up the design limit. If city require extra slots for there u19 team then I guess I can see where that has to come from and this could be part of the current campaign against FC.

The problem with the SMC seems to be when Bartlett took loans out against it, the transfer of those debts seems to have set up some sort of rider that effectively excludes the city council from exercising control over what is in effect there property.

I do not think the council wants to be seen as doing anything that would be to the detriment of Hull City, at the moment anyways

The issue is again the unfairness and the underhand tactics. In happier times at the KC I don't think any FC fan would have complained about City's youth team playing the odd game there, if our youth team could do the same. It's certianly a more worthwhile event than Polo and or Squash! Instead we have this current mess which does nobody any favours. That day in 2007 when City moved to an earlier kickoff to allow FC to play at home in the playoffs seems a lifetime ago now.

Re: City, should we be concerned? : Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:24 pm  

If the unfairness of use of the stadium goes on then Pearson should be making waves at the council and making a legal challenge, because frankly it IS having a detrimental effect on the club AND the fans, not just financially but the whole hassle of not being able to train on your own pitch nonsense never mind having the pitch being in poor condition due to misuse.
And further to a post with regard the car parking on the fairground land, that's under direct control of the council apparently so any complaint regrding unfair charging should be directed at the council unless they have somehow sold that off to someone without anyone knowing..

Re: City, should we be concerned? : Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:44 pm  

Car park passes are issued by the Stadium Management Company (who accept no liability etc), so Mr Allam decides how much to charge.
I doubt the council will have any say in the matter.

There doesn't seem to be any mention on the council website of a Walton Street car park.

The park and ride has long since gone - I guess it would clash with people wanting to use the new hotel(s) parking facilities.

Re: City, should we be concerned? : Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:27 pm  

ccs wrote:

Car park passes are issued by the Stadium Management Company, so Mr Allam decides how much to charge.
I doubt the council will have any say in the matter.

I misread the document I linked to, it says that the council are responsible for the upkeep of the land but can ask (SMC) for 10% of the costs to a max of £2500(I presume per year) I would have thought given the amount of use from parking for soccer/rugby matches it should be more like 50/50, again the council screwing up.

Re: City, should we be concerned? : Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:30 pm  

just be thankfull the lib{tory}dems didn't keep power,stadium would have been allams now and we would probably been out of it.

Re: City, should we be concerned? : Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:06 pm  

ditchley16 wrote:

just be thankfull the lib{tory}dems didn't keep power,stadium would have been allams now and we would probably been out of it.

Something as fans we all need to be aware of come May 2015.

Re: City, should we be concerned? : Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:43 pm  

HullFC50 wrote:

Something as fans we all need to be aware of come May 2015.

Really?

Lets go get our own stadium, oh and get a massive pay off to release us from the SMC contract

Re: City, should we be concerned? : Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:54 am  

frepneyboy wrote:

Really?

Lets go get our own stadium, oh and get a massive pay off to release us from the SMC contract

Getting our own stadium is pie in the sky, first of all any payoff would need to be at least £15M, we wouldn't get any sport England or lottery funding because we already have a ground. That would still leave the club in the hole for £15-£20M funding so that we can build a decent stadium & facilities on site(20k capacity needed). IF we could get naming rights sponsor, a 3G pitch would help enormously in easing the long term debt, but it would be a lot of debt to pay back. One that the present owner would not want to go down.

Second and more importantly where you going to locate it? Many people of West Hull still walk to games or are able to get an easy bus ride in.
Costello I hear you say..I don't think so, so where else that has enough space (that is up for sale) for parking and additional facilities that you can get relatively easy planning permission for?

Re: City, should we be concerned? : Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:29 am  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

Getting our own stadium is pie in the sky, first of all any payoff would need to be at least £15M, we wouldn't get any sport England or lottery funding because we already have a ground. That would still leave the club in the hole for £15-£20M funding so that we can build a decent stadium & facilities on site(20k capacity needed). IF we could get naming rights sponsor, a 3G pitch would help enormously in easing the long term debt, but it would be a lot of debt to pay back. One that the present owner would not want to go down.

Second and more importantly where you going to locate it? Many people of West Hull still walk to games or are able to get an easy bus ride in.
Costello I hear you say..I don't think so, so where else that has enough space (that is up for sale) for parking and additional facilities that you can get relatively easy planning permission for?

The Birds Eye site is the ideal spot, but I agree that the finances make it all a pipe dream.