Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:56 pm  

spot on hokey

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:18 pm  

Kosh wrote:

I think that everyone can agree that we have issues with a slow PTB, but how anyone can look at Silverwood's performance and say that he was equally bad for both sides is beyond my comprehension. Granted he was terrible overall, but we got the dodgy end of the stick by some considerable margin.

You say similar nearly every week, I disagree this week as I do many others. The officials are bad, but not usually biased without a big 4 presence.

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:21 pm  

Large Paws wrote:

I agree that most times things are evened up, but, that doesn't mean it's ok not to police it properly. He was poor for both sides.
As I said in a previous post Silverwood was particularly lax in with the offside. He had players either side of him, within touching distance, who were clearly well in front of him, before the ball was even placed, never mind heeled (well, ok. an attempt was made to heel ) How he couldn't see it is a bit of a worry.
I also agree that our generally slow PTB's, seem to highlight the problem even more.

I agree it's not ok to not police it properly. I'm just saying that it's often the same for both sides and we are not the perennial victims some seem to think or want to paint us as.

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:54 pm  

dayvoz wrote:

:CLAP: You've no chance with that particular poster as he's desperate to tell us all how he was correct in permanently slating the coach.

Who slated the coach? I offered an opinion on the actuality of what I saw, going by the previous posts by other forumers they agree. Our PTB is lacklustre, there are no dummy runners and backing up breaks is awful/non existant, our effort is there, that's hardly ever being in doubt and our defence was pretty good as I said.
As you're so desperate to tell us how correct you are over whatever the point you're trying to make why not actually look at what has being written, compare it to the actual game and how we played and then come up with a contribution to the thread instead of backbiting like an infant or are you just not capable of understanding the game of rugby league and a very fair assessment of how we played?

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:03 am  

hokeydokey wrote:

Who won? anyone would think we had lost, Widnes moved the ball better ..and lost ! they saved 6 players for this game...and lost Fc had No Ellis, ,Sneyd,Watts,Green,Hadley,Yeaman and Whiting come of the back of a easter weekend and all fans can do is pick fault. make no mistake Widnes were offside probably all the game and Silverwood allowed it.Again Houghton gets flack for what? giving 100% .As for agreeing with the pundits these are the same pundits who said kelly was magical getting two length of the field interception tries yet Lineham did the same and he was lucky? the same pundits who had fc to lose and how Brown would be the key to a Widnes win,they were wrong . No it was not sparkling rugby but come on give the side some credit for once

Did you actually bother reading, no sorry understanding what I said?? FFS you just concocted imaginary stuff out of your own head and surplanted it to how you read what I'd written. They said we wouldn't trouble the top sides with that attack, I agree on the basis of what I saw, you have an opinion fine but you go on to say about me saying Lineham was lucky IF you had listened to the commentators they actually said Lineham was brave and had used his nouse..so on that your interpretation of what I said was wrong.(The fact I never mentioned Lineham seems to have also avoided you!!)
I pointed out our obvious inadequecies, as others have also, Houghton IS NOT a great distributor of the ball, he hardly ever changes the direction of play and it's all so slow AND obvious. If you think our backing up is great watch how many breaks we make and how many times we backed up in that game, watch how little dummy runners we have.. I've given congrats on a well earned win in tough circumstances but I and many others can see where we are lacking.
if you don't like the fact that posters have an opinion on what is on show..tough, go elsewhere but learn to understand what's being said instead of thinking what it said in your own mind mr agenda.

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:36 am  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

Did you actually bother reading, no sorry understanding what I said?? FFS you just concocted imaginary stuff out of your own head and surplanted it to how you read what I'd written. They said we wouldn't trouble the top sides with that attack, I agree on the basis of what I saw, you have an opinion fine but you go on to say about me saying Lineham was lucky IF you had listened to the commentators they actually said Lineham was brave and had used his nouse..so on that your interpretation of what I said was wrong.(The fact I never mentioned Lineham seems to have also avoided you!!)
I pointed out our obvious inadequecies, as others have also, Houghton IS NOT a great distributor of the ball, he hardly ever changes the direction of play and it's all so slow AND obvious. If you think our backing up is great watch how many breaks we make and how many times we backed up in that game, watch how little dummy runners we have.. I've given congrats on a well earned win in tough circumstances but I and many others can see where we are lacking.
if you don't like the fact that posters have an opinion on what is on show..tough, go elsewhere but learn to understand what's being said instead of thinking what it said in your own mind mr agenda.

Just about to type something similar but simply can't be @ rsed now as you've save me the trouble. Strange how you can type no criticism of the team whatsoever and merely comment on referree performance and pundit opinion and get slated for knocking the team by some one eyed fans who interpret it as such with hokeys being the best fantasy story I've seen.

[Kosh]

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:18 am  

carl_spackler wrote:

You say similar nearly every week, I disagree this week as I do many others. The officials are bad, but not usually biased without a big 4 presence.

I've barely mentioned the officials this season. But feel free to quote me to prove otherwise.

I never mentioned bias. A ref doesn't have to be deliberately biased to ref one side differently to another or for decisions to go more in favour of one team than the other. Incompetence is enough.

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:53 am  

Kosh wrote:

I've barely mentioned the officials this season. But feel free to quote me to prove otherwise.

I don't really care enough to check your posting history to see if that is true for this season. It has been a consistent theme of yours for pretty much all of the time I've been on these boards to bash the refs as working against us, though, whether intentionally or not.

Kosh wrote:

I never mentioned bias. A ref doesn't have to be deliberately biased to ref one side differently to another or for decisions to go more in favour of one team than the other. Incompetence is enough.

So you genuinely believe that we are regularly on the receiving end of incompetent refereeing performances that just so happen to favour the opposition?

It's not that IMO, I think it's just the natural warping of a fan's view to more readily notice and then remember the things that go against their team. It does happen sometimes, but with the regularity you've often suggested, no.

And I still don't think it was the case on Friday specifically, which was the starting point.

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:56 am  

Bring back Fred lindop

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:13 pm  

While talking about the RH commentary team I was listening to the coverage of Rovers and Castleford while driving home at the weekend. At the point where Carney went down with his arm one of the commentary team came out with "I hope he's injured", followed by a bit of back pedalling no doubt when seeing the looks on others faces that he's actually said it out loud.

Classy.