Re: Widnes Home : Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:32 am  

Dave K. wrote:

I think he is right, Our Full back Danny Houghton hasn't scored enough trys this year, I'd send him out on DR.

p.s, I think Standee is back.

Yep. Got to hand it to Standee, he's pretty persistent.

[Chris71]

Re: Widnes Home : Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:41 am  

Think Saturday showed what we miss without Sika Manu. He is still an asset to the team but unfortunately due to the bulk of injuries we've had this season the likes of Manu & Mini have really had to take on a lot of extra work on the field and its told which isn't unexpected. We lost Ellis to retirement but unfortunately lost Hadley for a bit. Also losing the likes of Fonua who helped with the workload and the fact Faraimo has been binned, knocked out, suspended etc again hasn't helped along with the loss of Bowden, Griffin & Talanoa who all chip in with the work load.
Manu is not a try machine never has been or would be as thats not his role but he is certainly an important and fundamental cog in the 17.

Re: Widnes Home : Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:48 am  

Chris71 wrote:

Think Saturday showed what we miss without Sika Manu. He is still an asset to the team but unfortunately due to the bulk of injuries we've had this season the likes of Manu & Mini have really had to take on a lot of extra work on the field and its told which isn't unexpected. We lost Ellis to retirement but unfortunately lost Hadley for a bit. Also losing the likes of Fonua who helped with the workload and the fact Faraimo has been binned, knocked out, suspended etc again hasn't helped along with the loss of Bowden, Griffin & Talanoa who all chip in with the work load.
Manu is not a try machine never has been or would be as thats not his role but he is certainly an important and fundamental cog in the 17.

Yep, some people watch the game but don't pick up on certain elements of it. What Manu brings to the side allows others to flourish and do the eye-catching stuff, like scoring tries.

Also worth remembering that on top of the workload forced upon him this year due to injuries as you mention, Manu captained his side in the World Cup all the way up to a brutal semi-final, whilst most of our lot got a well-earned rest after a bloody long domestic season. I'm not sure he's been 100% at any point this season.

Re: Widnes Home : Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:07 pm  

DGM wrote:

Yep, some people watch the game but don't pick up on certain elements of it. What Manu brings to the side allows others to flourish and do the eye-catching stuff, like scoring tries.

Also worth remembering that on top of the workload forced upon him this year due to injuries as you mention, Manu captained his side in the World Cup all the way up to a brutal semi-final, whilst most of our lot got a well-earned rest after a bloody long domestic season. I'm not sure he's been 100% at any point this season.

Fair observations, we will have to see how the next few games go. We are really missing Sneyd and Ellis was simply beyond replaceable.

Re: Widnes Home : Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:20 pm  

People said Ellis didn't score enough. Some people don't understand our game right well.

Re: Widnes Home : Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:02 pm  

Leigh_Manning wrote:

I'm no troll, and yes, talking Sika Manu. It's called opinion.

For which you are entitled.

But you also have to accept that its a unique opinion which holds as much credibility as a chocolate fire guard.

Martin Offiah scored over 500 tries, but I wouldnt have him in the back row.

Re: Widnes Home : Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:15 pm  

Just put the junior squad members out to get experience for the rest of the campaign.
It will benefit us for next year, senior players will get over injuries properly and/or be fully rested to start back early for a full on pre season raring to go.
After all the season is over isn't it?

Re: Widnes Home : Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:01 am  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

Just put the junior squad members out to get experience for the rest of the campaign.
It will benefit us for next year, senior players will get over injuries properly and/or be fully rested to start back early for a full on pre season raring to go.
After all the season is over isn't it?

You’re the only one stating it over and over. As I said earlier, reality is reality. It’s still doable but it will take a magnificent effort but we know what this RADFORD team is capable of, even with all the young players he’s brought through the system.

Re: Widnes Home : Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:58 am  

Armavinit wrote:

You’re the only one stating it over and over. As I said earlier, reality is reality. It’s still doable but it will take a magnificent effort but we know what this RADFORD team is capable of, even with all the young players he’s brought through the system.

currently 5th, 5 points above 8th, still to play teams below us, players to come back from injury. So, YES, RADFORD's team are still very much in the mix.

Re: Widnes Home : Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:33 am  

Can't believe the discussion is even happening about playing young kids for the rest of the year. Surely you would be better playing first team and then getting more and more experience of games that the result is the only thing that matters

If you have 6/7 "Cup finals" as such in that if you have to win to stay on the coat tails of the other teams or take over them for top 4, surely that's more beneficial as a squad then playing the young kids and getting beat more often then not. High pressure situations is what improves your big game players which ultimately will get in over kids when fit every time. Even if you don't make the 4 after 30 games, having a good dig at it is more beneficial for the squad