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Re: O'Brian
Post Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:55 pm
Posted by musson on Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:55 pm
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He might have kicked a few drop goals when the chips were down but to say statements like & is absolutely pure conjecture. Nothing to do with how many games you've watched or played in imo. Surely it'd be better to say you think he'd probably have won us a couple of games from DG's instead of making a thing we will never know about factual?


He would imo have dropped the goal against Hull that would have taken us to the semis

If you want me to change that to he “would have won us a couple of games with drop goals” that works for me as well
I don’t see the difference but happy to agree with you shifty
Re: O'Brian
Post Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:59 pm
Posted by vastman on Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:59 pm
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musson wrote:
He would imo have dropped the goal against Hull that would have taken us to the semis

If you want me to change that to he “would have won us a couple of games with drop goals” that works for me as well
I don’t see the difference but happy to agree with you shifty


That’s not an opinion it’s just speculation.

Would he have kicked the drop goal Miller did against Catalan?

Probably not but hey who knows.
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Re: O'Brian
Post Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:07 pm
Posted by wakefieldwall on Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:07 pm
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If O'Brien was a good as stated he wouldn't be at Toronto. He does the spectacular but doesn't stand out for me as a good all rounder at full back. Wouldn't trade him for what we have.
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Post Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:51 pm
Posted by Outwood Trinity on Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:51 pm
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Hard to really compare as to whether he would have kicked a certain drop goal that someone else may have, or even missed. Doubting whether O'Brien would have kicked Miller's DG at Newcastle. You could also say would Miller have kicked O'Briens in the MPG.

Both far out kicks, but more at stake with the kick in the MPG, Miller's was central, O'Briens was, I believe off centre. Also I think when O'Brien kicked it, he kicked it while moving forward, while Miller's was from a stationary position.

From someone who has played the sport, and kicked a few, kicking a drop goal from a moving position is a very difficult skill to master.

All if's and buts, but personally I think the one in the MPG was harder, all considered
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Post Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:56 pm
Posted by vastman on Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:56 pm
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Hard to really compare as to whether he would have kicked a certain drop goal that someone else may have, or even missed. Doubting whether O'Brien would have kicked Miller's DG at Newcastle. You could also say would Miller have kicked O'Briens in the MPG.

Both far out kicks, but more at stake with the kick in the MPG, Miller's was central, O'Briens was, I believe off centre. Also I think when O'Brien kicked it, he kicked it while moving forward, while Miller's was from a stationary position.

From someone who has played the sport, and kicked a few, kicking a drop goal from a moving position is a very difficult skill to master.

All if's and buts, but personally I think the one in the MPG was harder, all considered


Thats not really the point, the point is nobody knows.
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Post Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:02 pm
Posted by musson on Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:02 pm
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vastman wrote:
That’s not an opinion it’s just speculation..


No, that's defo my opinion

vastman wrote:
Would he have kicked the drop goal Miller did against Catalan?

Probably not but hey who knows.


That's just you speculating now

IMO GO would have kicked that one and various others as per my previous posts
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Re: O'Brian
Post Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:07 pm
Posted by musson on Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:07 pm
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vastman wrote:
Thats not really the point, the point is nobody knows.


Outwork trinity makes a very fair point using his experience to back up his opinion

That it doesn't suite you, doesn't mean it's not the point
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Post Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:12 am
Posted by Trojan Horse on Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:12 am
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Its pretty far out there that we would be approaching a full back purely on his ability to drop a goal. He doesn’t have much else going for him.
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Post Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:14 pm
Posted by PopTart on Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:14 pm
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Maybe he would have kicked that goal, but without with Grix or Miller it might just as easily been the goal that kept us in Super League in the MPG.
You can't just take one incident. You have to reimagine the whole season with GOB. The drop goal may not have then had the same significance.
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Post Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:23 pm
Posted by Miro on Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:23 pm
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Short on tactical nuance, three drop goals, just three, and Toronto would be in SL.
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