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Re: Minimum Wage
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:16 pm
Posted by Trinity18 on Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:16 pm
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Daddycool wrote:
We fell foul in one area. That we didn’t pay travelling time to games for academy players. And those amounts owed go back 3 years. So yes, we fell foul of rules we were unaware of. Yes, we have paid everyone in full as agreed with HMRC. And yes we have been fined heavily. There was 1 particular person at fault, but as the employer, the buck stops with me.


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Re: Minimum Wage
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:40 pm
Posted by wakeytrin on Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:40 pm
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Daddycool wrote:
We fell foul in one area. That we didn’t pay travelling time to games for academy players. And those amounts owed go back 3 years. So yes, we fell foul of rules we were unaware of. Yes, we have paid everyone in full as agreed with HMRC. And yes we have been fined heavily. There was 1 particular person at fault, but as the employer, the buck stops with me.

Thanks for clearing that up DC.
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Re: Minimum Wage
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:16 pm
Posted by PopTart on Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:16 pm
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It's been said plenty of times but we are quite lucky that we have a chairman who actually communicates with fans and explains both the good and the bad.
I can't imagine that happens on any other forum.
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Re: Minimum Wage
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:21 pm
Posted by Redscat on Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:21 pm
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Daddycool wrote:
We fell foul in one area. That we didn’t pay travelling time to games for academy players. And those amounts owed go back 3 years. So yes, we fell foul of rules we were unaware of. Yes, we have paid everyone in full as agreed with HMRC. And yes we have been fined heavily. There was 1 particular person at fault, but as the employer, the buck stops with me.


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Re: Minimum Wage
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:47 pm
Posted by metallicat on Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:47 pm
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We as a club are among the companies that have failed to pay national minimum wage to there employees :oops:

And that's just the first team squad !!!!!!!!
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Re: Minimum Wage
Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:10 am
Posted by Eastern Wildcat on Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:10 am
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Thanks for the explanation there Daddycool, and for clearing that one up
Re: Minimum Wage
Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:11 am
Posted by wrencat1873 on Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:11 am
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Going back to the original post.
There is a world of difference in deliberately paying less than minimum wage and falling foul of some nuance within employment law.
It's great that MC has clarified this but, you do have to question how this stuff is reported.
Within the pages of a broadsheet paper, we look just the same as companies that ARE deliberately underpaying their staff and that doesn't seem right.
Re: Minimum Wage
Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:06 am
Posted by Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo on Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:06 am
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wrencat1873 wrote:
Going back to the original post.
There is a world of difference in deliberately paying less than minimum wage and falling foul of some nuance within employment law.
It's great that MC has clarified this but, you do have to question how this stuff is reported.
Within the pages of a broadsheet paper, we look just the same as companies that ARE deliberately underpaying their staff and that doesn't seem right.


Even "fans" of the club are quick to leap in with the holier than thou comments.
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Re: Minimum Wage
Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:29 am
Posted by wrencat1873 on Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:29 am
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Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:
Even "fans" of the club are quick to leap in with the holier than thou comments.


Indeed :CRAZY:
Re: Minimum Wage
Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:12 am
Posted by bren2k on Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:12 am
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Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:
Even "fans" of the club are quick to leap in with the holier than thou comments.


Indeed - and usually ones who have no clue about how complicated it is to comply with the ever-changing rules about NMW; from an employers perspective, it's far from clear, and interpretation can change based on case law and HMRC judgements, that they arbitrarily decide to backdate. The lads who've had this backdated payment probably had no idea they were due it at the time, and have benefited from an ET case brought by someone else, in an unrelated environment, that HMRC have decided to apply across the board.

It's highly UNlikely to be a deliberate ploy by MC to enslave academy players like a Victorian workhouse owner - and since he's rectified the matter and taken the fine on the chin, it should be considered closed.
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