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Re: Bad News : Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:40 pm  
Finn might not be the sharpest player physically on the pitch but his brain is very sharp and if he can put the fast guys into spaces he doesn't need to be a speed merchant himself. Alan Agar did a similar job when he was at Wakefield years ago.
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Re: Bad News : Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:46 pm  
I’ll weigh in with an opinion on this.

Within our current squad, Finn is the best halfback and is a must selection week in week out or the team doesn’t function smoothly enough in attack as we saw in the one game he was dropped for last season. His experience, control and distribution is a huge asset and compliments the players around him.

However, a lack of pace hurts his impact as an attacking threat but this isn’t his only issue he is also a less than average defender who often lets his man through the line, more so than any other halfback I can think of.

The real difficulty Trinity face is where to find a replacement who’s good enough to bring Finns assets while offering a mix of youth, pace and greater defensive strength. My guess is that if we found one, either here or down under, we’d be facing masses of competition for his signature.

Till then or until he retires Finn is the best we’ve got.
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Re: Bad News : Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:54 pm  
vastman wrote:
Ok change I'll that to competition if that helps you - again why do you assume even if Sam were first choice it was Finn to be dropped. These days H/B and No 9's are interchangeable so to me calling anyone 'first choice' is misleading.

As for the Hull game, wouldn't you want to see how your new signing went and wasn't I don't remember how he used the bench in that game but I can check on Trinity TV and get back to you.

There's no need to do that on my behalf ! I've not got the time to read everyone's posts! Some of us have a life :wink:
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Re: Bad News : Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:56 pm  
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I’ll weigh in with an opinion on this.

Within our current squad, Finn is the best halfback and is a must selection week in week out or the team doesn’t function smoothly enough in attack as we saw in the one game he was dropped for last season. His experience, control and distribution is a huge asset and compliments the players around him.

However, a lack of pace hurts his impact as an attacking threat but this isn’t his only issue he is also a less than average defender who often lets his man through the line, more so than any other halfback I can think of.

The real difficulty Trinity face is where to find a replacement who’s good enough to bring Finns assets while offering a mix of youth, pace and greater defensive strength. My guess is that if we found one, either here or down under, we’d be facing masses of competition for his signature.

Till then or until he retires Finn is the best we’ve got.

Totally agree with you.
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Re: Bad News : Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:18 pm  
cheshirecat57 wrote:
Totally agree with you.


Aye :? Thats not what you said - I agree with Avenger - so somewhere lines have got crossed.
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Re: Bad News : Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:22 pm  
The Avenger wrote:
I’ll weigh in with an opinion on this.

Within our current squad, Finn is the best halfback and is a must selection week in week out or the team doesn’t function smoothly enough in attack as we saw in the one game he was dropped for last season. His experience, control and distribution is a huge asset and compliments the players around him.

However, a lack of pace hurts his impact as an attacking threat but this isn’t his only issue he is also a less than average defender who often lets his man through the line, more so than any other halfback I can think of.

The real difficulty Trinity face is where to find a replacement who’s good enough to bring Finns assets while offering a mix of youth, pace and greater defensive strength. My guess is that if we found one, either here or down under, we’d be facing masses of competition for his signature.

Till then or until he retires Finn is the best we’ve got.


Although I agree about his defence he does make the big tackles when it's crucial - he did a few blinders in the WC.

Miller is one of the better defensive halves in the league he's come leaps and bounds in the last few years so he tends to compensate for Finn.
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Re: Bad News : Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:54 pm  
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Although I agree about his defence he does make the big tackles when it's crucial - he did a few blinders in the WC.

Miller is one of the better defensive halves in the league he's come leaps and bounds in the last few years so he tends to compensate for Finn.

Finn's defense obviously isn't the strongest part of his game and he does miss quite a few but for a SH he makes more tackles than just about every other halfback in the League. That may be because teams single him out but compared to other Halves his stats aren't too bad, yeah I know they don't tell you the full picture but give you a good idea.

Last year he made 598 tackles and missed 71. Kelly made 530 & missed 70, Luke Walsh made 379 & missed 59, Myler made 321 & missed 53 and Gale made 304 & missed 46. As for Miller, I agree that his defensive side of the game seemed to have tightened up since he's been with us, but last season he made 357 tackles and missed 69. :shock: Stats hey. :)
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Re: Bad News : Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:09 am  
I just done have a problem with Finn in any department. Yes a bit of pace would be an advantage but hes at least one step ahead of most. With regard to defence I would say probably better than most SHs.
If a young Finn could be found and developed I would be more than happy.
Just out of interest what S H would fit the squad better than Finn at the moment and more importantly why.
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Re: Bad News : Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:33 am  
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I just done have a problem with Finn in any department. Yes a bit of pace would be an advantage but hes at least one step ahead of most. With regard to defence I would say probably better than most SHs.
If a young Finn could be found and developed I would be more than happy.
Just out of interest what S H would fit the squad better than Finn at the moment and more importantly why.


No British one I can think of that's for sure. There may be a few Aussies who have a similar skill set but would they be any better - I doubt it.

What people tend to look at with Finn is a lack of pace or more accurately speed off the mark. There is no doubt this inhibits his ability to make breaks for himself that he has created - if he could he'd be the GB S/H in residence.

But at Wakefield that doesn't matter very much because he's part of a team and now has two exceptional runners in Miller and Hampshire as partners in crime.

Even if he does start to slow to unacceptable levels this season or next we are clearly putting his successors in place.

Imho Finn is not the most gifted or exciting player we have signed in the past few years but he is imho the most important. He got a lot of stick of some quite sensible posters when we signed him, why I don't really know. However there are few that would argue his signing now, even those with some reservation.

To me he's the man who has been the catalyst to our success. I firmly believe that contrary to popular belief it's his slow steady game that has allowed that shambles of a team from 2015 to catch up and thrive.

His time as a player is coming to an end but let's not be premature. Although Gale is a better player for Cas than Finn I bet Powell wishes deep down he'd have kept him a bit longer and so should we as he looks far from done just yet.
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Re: Bad News : Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:35 am  
Think the Powel thing could be right. Is Jamie Ellis any better than Finn ?
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