Denis Betts is a keep away from the post in my opinion. He's full of it when his team wins and does nothing but moan when they don't. Both Widnes and Wigan seem to build a team around aggression hoping to break teams down. I have very little time for either of them. Some say Widnes are well coached but I disagree totally. I also think that St Helens are going the same way , they constantly niggle at the P The ball and get away with more head highs than most.