Re: To TRB, SWAG & everyone else involved! : Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:45 am  

Trinity Till Death wrote: The 'June Fender' Stadium [url] Admitting defeat! http://www.methley-village.com/html/res ... ation.html[/url]

Trinity Till Death wrote: The 'June Fender' Stadium [url] Admitting defeat! http://www.methley-village.com/html/res ... ation.html[/url]

Re: To TRB, SWAG & everyone else involved! : Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:28 am  

The scheme will be built on a 240 acre Green Belt site, despite more than 1,300 objections by local people. The campaign group, which formed to challenge the proposals, attended two Public Inquiries and raised many issues, including impact on the environment, inadequate public consultation and the presence of alternative, less controversial sites in the Wakefield area. Questions were also raised about the financial viability of both the scheme and its developer.

It's interesting that she fails to mention that the 'many issues' raised by the campaign group have been totally debunked by the Inspector; or that against the 1,300 objection there were 15,000 statements of support; or that she herself has been criticised in his report for making baseless allegations during the inquiry, but having absolutely no evidence to back them up.

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Re: To TRB, SWAG & everyone else involved! : Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:31 am  

Inflatable_Armadillo wrote: [url] Admitting defeat! http://www.methley-village.com/html/res ... ation.html[/url] Love it!

Inflatable_Armadillo wrote: [url] Admitting defeat! http://www.methley-village.com/html/res ... ation.html[/url] Love it!

Re: To TRB, SWAG & everyone else involved! : Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:17 am  

Inflatable_Armadillo wrote: [url] Admitting defeat! http://www.methley-village.com/html/res ... ation.html[/url] Its interesting that when the Council approved the application the Methley Residents Association were demanding a Public Inquiry. They got what they wanted and the application was scruitinised by HM Planning Inspectorate with cases put by those in favour (YorkCourt and Wakefield MDC) and the only statutory objector Leeds CC. Interested Parties (the Public) were also permitted to put their views - it was completely open and anyone who wanted to was allowed to speak. MRA now dont like the outcome, what a surprise. I think they need to take a long hard look at what happened in the Inquiry and particularly the section where Interested Parties spoke. The cases put by those is favour were articulate, intelligent and factually correct wheres the objectors were an absolute shambles and laughable. We had guys speaking about birds but when questioned had not even read the Environmental Statements etc. submitted with the Planning Application. MRA's case was that there had not been adequate consultation but Wakefield MDC's Barrister pointed out in their own report a photograph of them and a report in the Express speaking about the consultation. Ms Fender then mounted a personal attack on Peter Box which I felt was libelous which the Inspector seemed very annoyed about and has mentioned in his report. Then a Mr Cubbage who didn't want to say where his business was located until pressed by the Inspector - surprisingly it was in Castleford- attacked a report by YorkCourt's property professionals without any property qualifications himself and then started claiming that YorkCourt had no money - not the purpose of the Inquiry. Again the Inspector was not amused. The objectors did a fantastic job of shooting themselves in the foot and really helped the case for the application but its hard to put forward a good argument when all its based on in NIMBY and trying to stop Wakefield Trinity getting a Stadium. MRA, you have had the Public Inquiry you demanded and the outcome is not in your favour, it's called democracy. Its heavy going but if you get chance to read the report it makes intereting reading.

Inflatable_Armadillo wrote: [url] Admitting defeat! http://www.methley-village.com/html/res ... ation.html[/url] Its interesting that when the Council approved the application the Methley Residents Association were demanding a Public Inquiry. They got what they wanted and the application was scruitinised by HM Planning Inspectorate with cases put by those in favour (YorkCourt and Wakefield MDC) and the only statutory objector Leeds CC. Interested Parties (the Public) were also permitted to put their views - it was completely open and anyone who wanted to was allowed to speak. MRA now dont like the outcome, what a surprise. I think they need to take a long hard look at what happened in the Inquiry and particularly the section where Interested Parties spoke. The cases put by those is favour were articulate, intelligent and factually correct wheres the objectors were an absolute shambles and laughable. We had guys speaking about birds but when questioned had not even read the Environmental Statements etc. submitted with the Planning Application. MRA's case was that there had not been adequate consultation but Wakefield MDC's Barrister pointed out in their own report a photograph of them and a report in the Express speaking about the consultation. Ms Fender then mounted a personal attack on Peter Box which I felt was libelous which the Inspector seemed very annoyed about and has mentioned in his report. Then a Mr Cubbage who didn't want to say where his business was located until pressed by the Inspector - surprisingly it was in Castleford- attacked a report by YorkCourt's property professionals without any property qualifications himself and then started claiming that YorkCourt had no money - not the purpose of the Inquiry. Again the Inspector was not amused. The objectors did a fantastic job of shooting themselves in the foot and really helped the case for the application but its hard to put forward a good argument when all its based on in NIMBY and trying to stop Wakefield Trinity getting a Stadium. MRA, you have had the Public Inquiry you demanded and the outcome is not in your favour, it's called democracy. Its heavy going but if you get chance to read the report it makes intereting reading.

Re: To TRB, SWAG & everyone else involved! : Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:25 am  

Sandal Cat wrote:

Its interesting that when the Council approved the application the Methley Residents Association were demanding a Public Inquiry. They got what they wanted and the application was scruitinised by HM Planning Inspectorate with cases put by those in favour (YorkCourt and Wakefield MDC) and the only statutory objector Leeds CC. Interested Parties (the Public) were also permitted to put their views - it was completely open and anyone who wanted to was allowed to speak.

MRA now dont like the outcome, what a surprise. I think they need to take a long hard look at what happened in the Inquiry and particularly the section where Interested Parties spoke. The cases put by those is favour were articulate, intelligent and factually correct wheres the objectors were an absolute shambles and laughable.

We had guys speaking about birds but when questioned had not even read the Environmental Statements etc. submitted with the Planning Application. MRA's case was that there had not been adequate consultation but Wakefield MDC's Barrister pointed out in their own report a photograph of them and a reporton the Express speaking about the consultation. Ms Fender then mounted a personal attack on Peter Box which I felt was libelous which the Inspector seemed very annoyed about and has mentioned in his report. Then a Mr Cubbage who didn't want to say where his business was located until pressed by the Inspector - surprisingly it was in Castleford- attacked a report by YorkCourt's property professionals without any property qualifications himself and then started claiming that YorkCourt had no money - not the purpose of the Inquiry. Again the Inspector was not amused. The objectors did a fantastic job of shooting themselves in the foot and really helped the case for the application but its had to put forward a good argument when all its based on in NIMBY and trying to stop Wakefield Trinity getting a Stadium.

MRA, you have had the Public Inquiry you demanded and the outcome is not in your favour, it's called democracy.

Its heavy going but if you get chance to read the report it makes intereting reading.

Well said that man!

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Re: To TRB, SWAG & everyone else involved! : Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:43 am  

Although I didn't like her style and I certainly didn't want her to win, she was passionate about something that was important to her. Unfortunately for her the only arguement she had was, I don't want this thing near me even if it is good for other people.

She tried her best and failed.

Lets be graceous in victory.

Re: To TRB, SWAG & everyone else involved! : Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:50 am  

PopTart wrote:

Although I didn't like her style and I certainly didn't want her to win, she was passionate about something that was important to her. Unfortunately for her the only arguement she had was, I don't want this thing near me even if it is good for other people.

She tried her best and failed.

Lets be graceous in victory.

Agreed. But you have to have a solid arguement and I respect anyone who is passionate about a cause even if I don't agree with that cause. What I cannot respect is someone who to try to make a point makes statements that have no truth behind them and libels an individual and tries to blacken his character - that's just not on.

Re: To TRB, SWAG & everyone else involved! : Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:55 am  

PopTart wrote:

Although I didn't like her style and I certainly didn't want her to win, she was passionate about something that was important to her. Unfortunately for her the only arguement she had was, I don't want this thing near me even if it is good for other people.

She tried her best and failed.

Lets be graceous in victory.

Personally I think you give this nasty individual far to much credit - still she got exactly what she deserved, so I'm happy she is unhappy.

There are/were people with genuine concerns which is what the PE was for, and then there are those who just wish to be contrary and the centre of attention. That's fine on here, but at an expensive PE it's nothing more than pure selfish indulgence.

She can go boil her head.

Re: To TRB, SWAG & everyone else involved! : Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:58 am  

The Andrew Glover Stadium gets my vote.

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Re: To TRB, SWAG & everyone else involved! : Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:09 am  

vastman wrote:

Personally I think you give this nasty individual far to much credit - still she got exactly what she deserved, so I'm happy she is unhappy.

There are/were people with genuine concerns which is what the PE was for, and then there are those who just wish to be contrary and the centre of attention. That's fine on here, but at an expensive PE it's nothing more than pure selfish indulgence.

She can go boil her head.

This.