Re: Would you change any? : Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:58 pm  

PopTart wrote:

We'll just have to disagree I'm afraid.
I watched him well before he came to Wakefield.
Lewis dominated the games he played in.
The fact that he is in the Australian's immortal list voted by many New South Welshmen speaks volumes.

But you have made me think about looking up the 1986 test series when they played opposite each other.

Again look at the team Wally had around him, I get your point but it's hard to judge Myler who was basically playing with one hand tied behind his back in many ways.

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Re: Would you change any? : Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:15 pm  

vastman wrote:

Again look at the team Wally had around him, I get your point but it's hard to judge Myler who was basically playing with one hand tied behind his back in many ways.

By that logic you could say none of the Aussie team were as good as their British counterpart.
The British team had Edwards Hanley Schofield Hampson Ward Goodway

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Re: Would you change any? : Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:58 pm  

PopTart wrote:

By that logic you could say none of the Aussie team were as good as their British counterpart.
The British team had Edwards Hanley Schofield Hampson Ward Goodway

Wow. I just watched the 86 highlights.
Great players on show.
Kevin Ward was the best prop on show. And although you probably wouldn't have dropped Kenny or Miles for Schofield at centre he wouldn't have out of place at all.......... But at 6......it was a man playing a boy.

Re: Would you change any? : Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:15 am  

Owing to his modern day persona people tend to forget just how good a player Schofield was; one of the greatest players I've had the privilege to watch.

Kevin Ward just phenomenal.

Re: Would you change any? : Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:12 am  

PopTart wrote:

Wow. I just watched the 86 highlights.
Great players on show.
Kevin Ward was the best prop on show. And although you probably wouldn't have dropped Kenny or Miles for Schofield at centre he wouldn't have out of place at all.......... But at 6......it was a man playing a boy.

That’s just plain insulting guff to claim Myler was a boy and Lewis a man utterly pathetic even for you - say that to his face would you tough guy?

Re: Would you change any? : Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:41 am  

altofts wildcat wrote:

If we are talking about the "Best" players then Shane Tronc has to be in there, those few games for us that he played for us he was the best prop in the league by an absolute mile.

I would have said the same - but maybe he misses out on that fantasy squad, because he wasn't here for long enough; but I totally agree - he was the best prop in SL and, iirc, was top of the list in metres made and tackle busts for several months after he left, such was his contribution.

Shame how his life turned out after he left us - but he was outstanding for his short spell.

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Re: Would you change any? : Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:53 am  

vastman wrote:

That’s just plain insulting guff to claim Myler was a boy and Lewis a man utterly pathetic even for you - say that to his face would you tough guy?

Watch the game and come back to me.
I hold Myler in high regard but Lewis was utterly dominant even in his own team.

It's also not just my opinion. Lewis is in the Australian Legends list. The first 5 were voted in when he was still a young player. He was the next voted in after he retired. Myler as good as he is and he's one of the best British stand offs I've seen, isn't even in the Widnes Hall of fame.

The 'tough guy' bit is over dramatic but to explain, I was referring to their role in the games and their level of skill.

Re: Would you change any? : Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:13 am  

Just a point of correction, not being picky but when comparing players it’s important, 2 is Right Wing & 5 is Left Wing. That makes the choices Johnstone or Cockayne and BJB or Tadulala which for me isn’t so straight forward. Semi was a far better defender than BJB and offered more when bringing the ball back.

Tony Myler is the 2nd Best Stand Off I’ve ever seen play the game.
Lewis’s stats at Origin level blow Thurston out of the water, although I rate Thurston as the 2nd best Aussie Half I’ve watched in my 50+ years.

No way should JD replace Poching as a Loose Forward

I agree with Aiton over other Hookers, there was a good reason Leeds went after him.

Ashurst, as good as he is, isn’t in Lauitiitis league and playing Ali in the same 17 as Solomona would be a nightmare for the opposition.

Rooney had far more to his game than Miller, no contest for me.

All just my opinion of course

Re: Would you change any? : Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:21 am  

Just a point of correction, not being picky but when comparing players it’s important, 2 is Right Wing & 5 is Left Wing. As the comparison t am has Tadulala on the right the choices are Johnstone or Cockayne (Tom by a mile) and BJB or Tadulala which for me isn’t so straight forward. Semi was a far better defender than BJB, offered more when bringing the ball back and was better under the high cross field kicks while he we no slouch for speed either.

Rooney had far more to his game than Miller, no contest for me.

Fifita in for Korkidas

I agree with Aiton over other Hookers, there was a good reason Leeds went after him.

Ashurst, as good as he is, isn’t in Lauitiitis league and playing Ali in the same 17 as Solomona would be a nightmare for the opposition.

No way should JD replace Poching as a Loose Forward

Tony Myler is the 2nd Best Stand Off I’ve ever seen play the game.
Lewis’s stats at Origin level blow Thurston out of the water, although I rate Thurston as the 2nd best Aussie Half I’ve watched in my 50+ years.

All just my opinion of course

Re: Would you change any? : Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:29 am  

LOL at Korki being included by some. I would say we've probably had the following props who were better than him (roughly in order):

Tronc
Fafita
Watene
Stosic
Lauititi
Pauli
Wilkes
Amor
Griffin
Jackson
England

And that's just from the top of my head.