Re: Andy Ellis : Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:27 am  

I think Ellis deserves special praise this guy has come into the team not SL match fit weve won 7 in a row. Excellent seems like he had been playing in this team for years. Outstanding. If we let him go we are crazy. Cannot fault Kyle wood either I would keep them both. Davey and Wildie will probably leave.

Re: Andy Ellis : Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:56 am  

Would be very, very dissapointed if this is true, the last 8 games have proved what Ellis brings to the team, and the last 2 games have said everything about what Agars thoughts are on the Ellis/Wood debate, (Ellis 20 mins then never seen again).

It's quite obvious teams target Wood and we concede a lot more points when he is defending in the middle and to me we can't afford to do this with Tim Smith in the side who has to defend in the centres.

Re: Andy Ellis : Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:20 am  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

Wood and Mellars are the only squad members I would like to see released. I think Wildie should be above Wood in the pecking order.

Agreed. Wildie showed enough last year in what was a very average side to be awarded the rising star award if im not mistaken? I dont see that much from Wood to make me think he is any better. Yes, he has come on and made a difference on the odd occasion, but so did Wildie last year. Cas away anyone?? I would go as far to say that Wildies defence is better and he is stronger in the tackle.

It appears RA has made his decision and right now, who am i to question it??? Given a choice, i would have Aiton & Ellis but personally on this occasion i think it is more financial than anything, with other positions being the priority.

Re: Andy Ellis : Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:42 pm  

REDWHITEANDBLUE wrote:

Well after all the early season calls about some of our players last season not getting a game when we couldnt win a game there is Matty Wildie who has been on duel reg and James Davey out at Sheffield.

We cant have our cake and eat it and I agree with the coach the team needs strengthening in areas, AE has been great but I am not sure he could last as his intensity for 80 minutes hence the need to rotae him with Wood, Aiton plays many more minutes and can cover at loose.

If the Foxy rumour is true it might also back up the Probiz blokes claim about shifting brass into Fev for some quality players. I would like us to sign a flyer on the wing, Foxy is great and never shirks running out of defence but on Saturday in open play leeds appeared yards faster than our defence.

Decision on Mathers too if he goes BC can cover full back this would give the opportunity for another winger or Danny Cowling/Sam Fletcher to start in the first team. What we really need is a big enforcer up front.

I think we are looking pretty good given that we usually change the majority of the squad each season we are now looking at critical positional changes to improve the whole team.

We have.....REECE LYNE !!!

Re: Andy Ellis : Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:09 pm  

Well what a position to be in do we keep this player or that player or the other player now that is rare for Wakey.I see Wood more as a 7 than 9 and Ellis more a natural 9 than Aiton and Aiton more a 13 but we have the problem of Washbrook who can also tackle like a demon.Think I will leave this one up to Mr Agar can do without the headache thanks.

Re: Andy Ellis : Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:18 pm  

Would be amazed if we sign Ellis, although we are desperate for a hooker.

Maybe its just rumour after his loan spell this season and the fact that he did so well. Most fev fans just want him back. Doubt we would have lost the NRC final if Ellis hadn't been recalled.

is he still contracted at wakey??

Re: Andy Ellis : Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:37 pm  

Yes signed a 3 year deal I believe. Hope we keep him he's a very good player and his distribution from acting half is as good as any hooker in the game

Re: Andy Ellis : Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:51 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Crazy decision to let him go, and if Trinity have I'd be amazed if another SL club doesn't come in for him.

Let's get some perspective, this is a forum rumour after all.

There is clearly something about Ellis Agar doesn't seem to like - I don't know what it is, but that said I personally have seen nothing from him to suggest he's as good as some on this thread think he is - though I personally would keep him. But that's just the opinion of a fan as are all the others on here and despite what we all think we really have not got a clue compared to the coaching staff - end of.

So to answer your point with a question - why have no other SL teams been in for him? Because the chance has rather obviously been there all season. That may tell you all you need to know.

Finally and it's pure speculation - I have a feeling that it's not Ellis Agar or the other SL coaches don't rate, I think it's his wage. He was signed pre Agar and I think we may have over paid, or certainly in Agars eyes. As a coach he may think he can get a lot more VFM than Ellis offers and want that money released - just a thought.

Re: Andy Ellis : Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:15 pm  

If releasing one of our 3 hookers meant the difference between signing the barnstorming prop we need, or not, I'd trust Agar to make the correct decision for the overall benefit of the squad.

Re: Andy Ellis : Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:29 pm  

vastman wrote:

Let's get some perspective, this is a forum rumour after all.

There is clearly something about Ellis Agar doesn't seem to like - I don't know what it is, but that said I personally have seen nothing from him to suggest he's as good as some on this thread think he is - though I personally would keep him. But that's just the opinion of a fan as are all the others on here and despite what we all think we really have not got a clue compared to the coaching staff - end of.

So to answer your point with a question - why have no other SL teams been in for him? Because the chance has rather obviously been there all season. That may tell you all you need to know.

Finally and it's pure speculation - I have a feeling that it's not Ellis Agar or the other SL coaches don't rate, I think it's his wage. He was signed pre Agar and I think we may have over paid, or certainly in Agars eyes. As a coach he may think he can get a lot more VFM than Ellis offers and want that money released - just a thought.

Good call, I hadn't thought of that - really can't see why we'd be letting him go if this wasn't the case tbh. London player of season last year, tore it up at Fev, been great when he came back - like I say, if it isn't a financial decision then it's madness to let him go.