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Re: Danny K
Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:10 am
Posted by BOJ042 on Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:10 am
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well played to the club he deserves it!
Re: Danny K
Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:50 am
Posted by vastman on Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:50 am
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I'm very much in two minds on this one, it's a tricky one.

I'm glad he's got a testimonial and if we had to sign him up for another year then so be it. It also sends out a message to other players that loyalty pays off.

That said ans I know some won't like this but I also hope he's on a much reduced deal. I know it sounds harsh but for the 2-3 decent games he gives us per season he cannot be worth whatever his last deal was - not at his age and not on current form, I do think some folk have very short memories.

He needs replacing, he's worn out and that's a fact and to do that we need to free up some cash. I'm all for loyalty and reward but it must be balanced against the future needs of the club not individuals. In the same way I stated it wasn't CC's job to promote TJ's international career it's also not his job to give DK's pension a boost, not saying that's whats happened just that it concerns me a little.

I'll say it now and if it makes me more unpopular with some (f that were actually possible) I'll take it on the chin - if Kirmond stays at the cost of a Hampshire, Crowther or even an Anakin I'll be very dissapointed. I suppose what I'm really saying is that IMO I hope the bulk of his new contract comes from the proceeds of his tesimonial otherwise IMO it's a nice gesture but poor bussiness. 8)
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Re: Danny K
Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:24 am
Posted by PopTart on Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:24 am
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Well done Danny. Happy we've signed him for another year.
I think he's got another year and brings goo stability. His stats this year shows he still has it
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Re: Danny K
Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:18 am
Posted by wrencat1873 on Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:18 am
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Trinity through and through and fully deserved.
We need to manage his game time etc but, the bloke never gives anything less than 100% for Wakefield.
Re: Danny K
Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:26 am
Posted by bren2k on Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:26 am
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Hard to argue with this - but I'd agree his involvement on the field should be dialled down a bit; there have been points in recent years where it's been quite clear that he was damaging himself by continuing to put his hand when he really shouldn't.

Danny is a top man, and has been very loyal through some difficult times - that's worth something in my book.
Re: Danny K
Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:29 am
Posted by Trinity18 on Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:29 am
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This year he has coming into his own again, running the right lines and running them hard. He definitely dropped off but has found his feet again, more than happy for him to be around for another year.
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Re: Danny K
Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:14 am
Posted by vastman on Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:14 am
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Well done Danny. Happy we've signed him for another year.
I think he's got another year and brings goo stability. His stats this year shows he still has it


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Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:23 am
Posted by Trinity18 on Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:23 am
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Got to agree with Vastman here, his stats are under average even in our side (never mind the league) however I would say currently he's in a better run of form currently than he was at all last year.
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Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:44 am
Posted by RWB on Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:44 am
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Agree with Vastman, I'm glad his loyalty has been rewarded and that he will continue to be around the squad, I think these days he brings more off-field than he does on it. However looking at the players out of contract at the year end it would be between him and Finn for which player I'd be least desperate to have signed extensions. Clearly the many years of playing with injuries has caught up with him and we have good cover in the backrow, especially if we sign Crowther up.

Happy for DK though, hope he gets a testimonial.
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Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:28 pm
Posted by PopTart on Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:28 pm
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So, I don't agree with Vastman. I doubt you checked the stats but I'm interested to know which of his stats you don't think are up to scratch?

As a forward his stats in general are better than most but you can't always compare like for like because people play different number of games and minutes in games.
But taking missed tackles as a percentage of overall tackle attempts he is 5.9%. For the back rowers our best is Ashurst with 3.5% worst is Horo at 12.3%. Front rowers range from Fifita at best with 4.0% and Pauli at 10.8%. Average across the forwards including hookers is funnily enough 5.9% exactly.

Average gain also can be compared regardless of how many games are played and he compares well there too.
For the back rowers, best is of course Ashurst with 6.71 metres per carry. Worst is 6.18 with Horo. Kirmond is 6.23. The front rowers are better with Fifita being best at 7.58, Huby being quite low at 5.72. Average across the back rowers is 6.29 (so Kirmond is 6cm down per carry!) Across all the forwards 6.5.

He hasn't scored any tries, but only Ashurst with 3 and Horo and Arona each with 1 have scored in the back row.
3 errors (all have 2 or 3 except Ashurst who is 8. ) and 6 penalties (only Bachelor has less)

I'm not saying he hasn't got older. He clearly is coming to the end of his time. But his stats this year show he is in the middle of the pack so is good enough for another year.
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